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OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

Is Israel still seeking for peace ? Read the post below :

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    Votes: 26 37.7%

  • Yes

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Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

GySgt said:
Muslims and others in the region seek to punish people who have nothing to do with it.....

* Sudan...Muslims have been called to attack Americans.

* Iraq....Sadr has called for Muslims to attack Americans.

* Europe....Muslims (and lets not pretend that only Muslims are among them) have targetted Jews.

* "Palestine".....Religious leaders have argued that by arming the Jews they can't fight.
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US is giving weapons to Israel which in turn is used to kill Arab Muslims.
If that isn't linking Americans with it, i have no idea what is.
If Americans/US do not want to be targeted by Muslims when it comes to Israel, here is my suggestion; Don't defend either side.

The truth is that Muslims are absolutely tolerant of Jews as long as they live under Muslims roofs. Jews in Iran are treated as well as other ethnic groups. Jews in Iraq are left alone. But Jews in Isreal were labeled the enemy since day one.
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Muslims have no problem with Jews. They are fine, they are the people of the book according to Prophet Mohammed [MPBUP]

Israelis/Jews need to be "secure" from another Holocaust has displaced a large group of people and caused the creation of a Jewish state on Arab land

It is not a Jew/Muslim fight, not yet.

And somehow, American citizens and troops are dragged into the situation as if they have anything at all to do with anything.
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Stop being so one sided and biased and perhaps you wouldn't be dragged into this situation.

This is a Jew/Muslim thing. Not an Israel/Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Syria thing. It's the modern day crusade that began one day after Israel's creation by the UN and sustained by the UN's ridiculous actions to keep Palestinians in a refugee status far longer than any other group on earth.
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There is no crusade and if Jews did want to wage a war against the entire 1.2 billion Muslims on this earth. Then target Mecca and we'll see a crusade and we'd damn well win.

can't we just start arguing that since the Muslim world is such a wreck of misery and failure that God isn't on their side in the first place?
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Jews, Christians and Muslims do not have God on their side.
They like to pretend they do because that justifys their actions but it is a delusion. The same way Jews pretend to be god's chosen people. Its all BS.
 
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Laila said:
US is giving weapons to Israel which in turn is used to kill Arab Muslims.
If that isn't linking Americans with it, i have no idea what is.
If Americans/US do not want to be targeted by Muslims when it comes to Israel, here is my suggestion; Don't defend either side.
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Well gee. 9/11 is linked to Muslims form Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan so we should have targetted all Muslim Egyptians, Saudis and Jordanians. Easy link right? In fact, 9/11 was a Muslim thing so, like Muslims who called for the targetting of Jews outside of Israel, should we should target all Muslims everywhere as well? Easy link right?

Is it this simple? I think not. Without America, Muslims would have to look into the mirror, which would simply lead to another scapegoat. We deal with many governments. Even Arab ones. But we are charged with guilt for this too by the fanatics aren't we? Isn't Sudan's Bashir one of these fanatics? Is he doing a good job for his Muslims without our involvement? And how would Kuwaiti Muslims have done without our interference? This blame America for Israel thing is pathetic. Especialy when the answer is to kill the American humanitarian worker that has nothing to do with nothing. It's weak and cowardly. Without the ability to raise up against those who you are truly angry with, they choose to kill the unwitting nobody simply because they are American.

This "easy link" is for cowards who haven't the ability to address their rage.


Laila said:
Muslims have no problem with Jews. They are fine, they are the people of the book according to Prophet Mohammed [MPBUP]

Israelis/Jews need to be "secure" from another Holocaust has displaced a large group of people and caused the creation of a Jewish state on Arab land

It is not a Jew/Muslim fight, not yet.
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Um......is this why Jews are being targetted in Europe? If it is an Isralei thing then why are Muslims targetting Jews in Europe? And why are Palesintian leaders criticizing America for arming the "Jews" so that they can't fight them? Notice the terminology. They speak about "Jews" not Israelis. It is BS. Jews re tolerated under Muslims roofs because of obligation to the "People of the Book." But a Jewish government on "Muslim" land? The truth is that the situaiton would have been just fine had the UN decided that "Palesitne" was to be governed by Arab Muslims with Jews underneath.


Laila said:
Stop being so one sided and biased and perhaps you wouldn't be dragged into this situation.
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Oh...because the humanitarian worker in Sudan has everything to do with the Israeli/Palesintian issue, right? Despite an American troop never being involved with the Israeli/Palesintian conflict, he is the legitimate target for Muslim rage? In America (the "Christian world"), we criminalize those who throw rocks through the windows of Muslim shops or beat up a Muslim for acts like 9/11. In the Middle East (the "Muslim world") we make acceptable arguments to legitimize the harming if innocents by "linking" them accrording to tribe, color, or national background.

Muslims argue about "peace," but with examples like Iraq, Sudan, and Afghanistan where Muslims have been guilty of oppressing and slaughtering Muslims, the problem isn't across the ocean or even the tiny sliver of land called Israel.


Laila said:
There is no crusade and if Jews did want to wage a war against the entire 1.2 billion Muslims on this earth. Then target Mecca and we'll see a crusade and we'd damn well win.
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Because Muslim tribal unity is a matter of concrete right? Because Hussein, being the most powerful in the region and lsing his throne in matter of week, is a great example? Because the Taliban were stripped of power in the same amount fo time is a bad example of Muslim might? Give me a break. First, Muslims would have to shake hands between the tribes and stop slaughtering and oppressing one another. And if there is no crusade then why did Palestinian independance only matter to Arabs the moment Jews were given some land?

Laila said:
Jews, Christians and Muslims do not have God on their side.
They like to pretend they do because that justifys their actions but it is a delusion. The same way Jews pretend to be god's chosen people. Its all BS.
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Yet it is why they fight. A simple acknowldgement of who is and who is not successful in this world should put this silly belief to rest.
 
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ludahai said:
The IDF does not AIM to kill civilians. They aim to kill terrorists. It is the terrorists who hide behind civilians.
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What kind of badass shooters are they ?
Killed more than 700 (more than 30% are women and children) civilian with a few Hamasis only killed ..
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
What kind of badass shooters are they ?
Killed more than 700 (more than 30% are women and children) civilian with a few Hamasis only killed ..
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Because HAMAS COWARDS HIDE AMONGST CIVILIANS!!!!

I think civilized posters on here are sick of your lies and mis-statements. 1200 killed in 9/11. :rofl
 
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ludahai said:
Because Israel exists and that most of its citizens are Jews.
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Actually you dont know what its like to live in Gaza, do you ?
 
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cherokee said:
I'm talking about how morons like you love to shoot your selves in the foot and cry how its Israel faults. You people have a "whine" gene or something.
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Actually its a "shot in the foot" when living under Israeli Aggression, and under a stupid government .

cherokee said:
How smart am I?
Hmm I don't believe in a wombat named Allah or Mohamad nor did I post claiming 1200 muslims died on 9/11. How about you?
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What's an Athiest opinion about any religeon ?
My ass
 
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ludahai said:
Because HAMAS COWARDS HIDE AMONGST CIVILIANS!!!!
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So the stupid IDF took the easy way and killed civilians too .

ludahai said:
I think civilized posters on here are sick of your lies and mis-statements. 1200 killed in 9/11. :rofl
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First of all, that was a quoted statics.
second, I've been sick of your useless offendings which shows that you're trying to prove some masculinity.
 
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I just checked in to see if the Palestinians had decided to recognize Israel's right to exist yet.

I see they haven't.

Back to the :argue
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
Actually you dont know what its like to live in Gaza, do you ?
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If you are referring to how crowded it is - I can relate to THAT somewhat.

However, if you are referring to overall living conditions, you are right. However, that does not justify the rockets that Hamas launched into Israel. I really want their situation to improve, but it certainly will NOT improve with Hamas at the helm. Let's not forget that there is NOTHING legitimate about the government of Hamas. They violently seized power in the summer of 2007.
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
So the stupid IDF took the easy way and killed civilians too .
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It isn't like they are trying to kill civilians. However, they need to get at the militants and if the militants want to hide amongst civilians and put those civilians into harms way, than the onus for their deaths lies squarely on Hamas, NOT Israel.

First of all, that was a quoted statics.
second, I've been sick of your useless offendings which shows that you're trying to prove some masculinity.
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Those "statistics" were nonsense. You are positing that more than 1/3 of those who died in the 9/11 attacks were Muslims. That is simply NOT tenable.
 
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ludahai said:
If you are referring to how crowded it is - I can relate to THAT somewhat.

However, if you are referring to overall living conditions, you are right. However, that does not justify the rockets that Hamas launched into Israel. I really want their situation to improve, but it certainly will NOT improve with Hamas at the helm. Let's not forget that there is NOTHING legitimate about the government of Hamas. They violently seized power in the summer of 2007.
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Living conditions are more than "sucks" thats all because of the blockades,
However, Hamas hadn't choose the correct way to show their Dissatisfaction .
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
Living conditions are more than "sucks" thats all because of the blockades,
However, Hamas hadn't choose the correct way to show their Dissatisfaction .
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And the blockades wouldn't have been necessary if Hamas wasn't illicitly importing weapons. Remember, Egypt was also blockading the border.
 
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Onion Eater said:
It is well known that the IDF uses captured civilians as human shields when raiding a house. They tie them together and push them forward, firing their M-16s over the prisoner's shoulder. Wikipedia has a lengthy article about this, including links to videos of it being done: Human shield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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See, this is the problem with only posting half the information. You come across as stating a valid position, but upon further examination, your position is faulty and easily dismissible. If you read the article you quote, you would notice that not only has the practice been outlawed by the Israeli Supreme Court, but Israeli commanders have been arrested and suspended for such actions since.

Of course, Palestinians still use their civilians as human shields, and of course the Palestinian government does nothing to reprimand or consequence them for it. You conveniently forgot to include all of these salient points. Your position on this has now been sufficiently watered down to hold no merit towards your claim.

Does Hamas launch rockets from positions near civilian structures like schools? Maybe. I have no way of knowing. But, I should point out, the Gaza Strip and particularly Gaza City is one of the most densely populated areas on Earth. At Gaza we read, "Covering a land area of 360 sq. km (approximately twice the size of Washington, DC) with a population of nearly 1.4 million, the Gaza Strip is a narrow sliver of land."

Within such tight confines, it is hard not to be near a school or some similar civilian structure.
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All irrelevant. I suppose a great way to not put their civilians in danger would be not not fire rockets at Israel. Simple solution that Hamas has never seemed to grasp.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Of course, Palestinians still use their civilians as human shields,
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Howcome ? :roll:
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
Howcome ? :roll:
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Because they are a bunch of cowards? They want the international community to see dead bodies of civilians so they will come against Israel? Say what you want about Hamas, they are very good at showing off dead bodies for good PR.
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
So the stupid IDF took the easy way and killed civilians too .
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1.) Israel cannot be blamed for where Hamas hides while it attacks Israel.

2.) Hamas is a terrorist group.

3.) Hamas is backed by Iran, Syria, and a host of other countries that are known state sponsors of terrorism.

4.) DO NOT blame Israel for the fact that Hamas terrorists are basically murderous cowards who hide among civilians.
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
Actually its a "shot in the foot" when living under Israeli Aggression, and under a stupid government .
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Preventing terrorists from entering Isreal and retailating against Hamas when they attack Israel is perfectly acceptable.

Once Hamas is disarmed and living in accordance with a ceasefire, the checkpoints, walls, and other security measures will not be needed.

Hamas created the situation in Gaza by attacking Israel. Accept that Hamas is responsible for what has ocurred in Gaza and move on.
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
Actually its a "shot in the foot" when living under Israeli Aggression, and under a stupid government .
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So you agree with the statement I posted. Thats good.
They say admitting your problem is a start to the road of recovery.


Ahmed Shaheen said:
What's an Athiest opinion about any religeon ?
My ass
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So your ass is what?
 
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Vader said:
Once Hamas is disarmed and living in accordance with a ceasefire, the checkpoints, walls, and other security measures will not be needed.
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Oh, I see, Checkpoints and walls will never prevent Hamas from firing rockets into Israel. or is it another useless argument ?

Vader said:
Hamas created the situation in Gaza by attacking Israel. Accept that Hamas is responsible for what has ocurred in Gaza and move on.
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Dont force me to follow your stupid Ideas please .
 
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cherokee said:
So you agree with the statement I posted
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When was that ?
 
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Vader said:
1.) Israel cannot be blamed for where Hamas hides while it attacks Israel.
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Israel tends to raid a civilian areas.


4.) DO NOT blame Israel for the fact that Hamas terrorists are basically murderous cowards who hide among civilians.[/QUOTE]

I hadn't denied that , but I still blame Israel like how Human Rights Watch and many governments did .
 
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Ahmed Shaheen said:
Israel tends to raid a civilian areas.
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Because that's where Hamas is firing ROCKETS from. Why is this hard for you to understand? Hamas is intentionally putting civilians at risk by firing rockets at Israel from civilian areas so when civilians who are killed in the counter attack can be used to put international opinion against Israel.


I hadn't denied that , but I still blame Israel like how Human Rights Watch and many governments did .
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And if Hamas were a nation instead of a terrorist organization they would be blamed by Human Rights watch as well.
 
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RightOfCenter said:
Because that's where Hamas is firing ROCKETS from. Why is this hard for you to understand? Hamas is intentionally putting civilians at risk by firing rockets at Israel from civilian areas so when civilians who are killed in the counter attack can be used to put international opinion against Israel.
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By logic, will Hamas stay in the same place it'd fired rockets from ?
Its a stupis way of thinking.


RightOfCenter said:
And if Hamas were a nation instead of a terrorist organization they would be blamed by Human Rights watch as well.
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there couldnt be a nation with 100% terrorists.
 
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ludahai said:
Say what you want about Hamas, they are very good at showing off dead bodies for good PR.
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They are a bunch of Morons, Just like tha IDF.
 
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