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Thread: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    His analogy is wrong and here is why. State governments were not involved except I think the inguisition. There have always been pockets of insane fanatics in every religion.
    Precisely, the problem is that you are being dishonest. You are making the case that Christianity should be forgiven for it's massive mistakes which took hundreds of thousands of lives, while stating Islam is a cancer which needs to be removed from our world.


    Here is another reason. Christianity does not teach violence or murder in the name of Christianity to further Christianity. Islam does. Get over that.
    I have proven to you that is incorrect in another thread.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The Islamic militants in the Iraq don't represent the country - they represent their own selfish interests.
    Agreed, same as the IDF are doing now.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by DivineComedy View Post
    If Islam is not the problem, a lack of education, and a lack of good government is.
    true


    Quote Originally Posted by DivineComedy View Post
    Feel free to expose to your friends the forked tongued devils who profess to be followers and protectors of Islam.
    mm, not my job

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Agreed, same as the IDF are doing now.
    WRONG.

    The IDF is killing the scum that are launching rockets into Israel.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    WRONG.

    The IDF is killing the scum that are launching rockets into Israel.
    It is quite unfortunate that the scum are not the only ones the IDF are killing.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Precisely, the problem is that you are being dishonest. You are making the case that Christianity should be forgiven for it's massive mistakes which took hundreds of thousands of lives, while stating Islam is a cancer which needs to be removed from our world.




    I have proven to you that is incorrect in another thread.
    No, you are twisting my words. Christianity does not teach murder and violence. Islam does.

    I don't agree you have proven me incorrect. Saying you have is not proof.

    The New Testament is the book of Christianity teachings. It does not teach to murder and commit violence to further Christianity. The Koran does.

    I have shown passages from the Koran that state that very clearly. Now you are going to have to show us passages from the New Testament and the words of Jesus and his disciples who wrote the New Testament to back up your words. Please go ahead.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    No, you are twisting my words. Christianity does not teach murder and violence. Islam does.
    Islam teaches just as much violence as Christianity does. Please remove your blinders and try to look at this objectively.

    The New Testament is the book of Christianity teachings. It does not teach to murder and commit violence to further Christianity. The Koran does.
    The New Testament is only one half of the Bible. Your willingness to ignore the Old Testament is quite telling. Cannot let facts get in the way of your argument, right?

    I have shown passages from the Koran that state that very clearly. Now you are going to have to show us passages from the New Testament and the words of Jesus and his disciples who wrote the New Testament to back up your words. Please go ahead.
    Ah! So we shall ignore the Old Testament and move on to the New Testament. So it is violence from the NT you want? Ask and you shall receive:

    Matthew 10:21 - And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

    John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Matthew 10:34 - I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword(Jesus said this).
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    It is quite unfortunate that the scum are not the only ones the IDF are killing.
    Agreed. However, that is Hamas' fault. Hamas hides among civilians and uses them as human shields.

    Hamas has the blood of innocents on its hands ... and the brainwashed people of Palestine still have the gaul to blame Israel.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Islam teaches just as much violence as Christianity does. Please remove your blinders and try to look at this objectively.

    The New Testament is only one half of the Bible. Your willingness to ignore the Old Testament is quite telling. Cannot let facts get in the way of your argument, right?

    Ah! So we shall ignore the Old Testament and move on to the New Testament. So it is violence from the NT you want? Ask and you shall receive:

    Matthew 10:21 - And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

    This is not teaching to put your parents to death. It is saying what will happen because of evil. Jesus is not teaching to kill your parents. He is warning what will happen. This does not teach to kill your parents in the name of Jesus. You are confused.

    John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    This teaches the mercy of God. If you choose Jesus then you choose life. You make the choice. Again, this is not teaching to kill anyone in the name of Jesus. You are confused.

    Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Again, your choice. There is nothing in this verse that teaches Christians to kill anyone in the name of Jesus. You're confused.

    Matthew 10:34 - I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword(Jesus said this).
    The sword is used in the New Testament as a picture of the word of God. The word of God separates like a sword separates. The same picture is used in the book of Hebrews. Jesus never told any of his followers to kill anyone. You're confused.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Precisely, the problem is that you are being dishonest. You are making the case that Christianity should be forgiven for it's massive mistakes which took hundreds of thousands of lives
    Why shouldn't "Christianity" be forgiven for mistakes it made hundreds or thousands of years ago? You can't hold modern Christianity (adherents/institutions) responsible for the Crusades or Inquisition anymore than you can hold modern white people responsible for slavery.

    Christianity in its current form has overwhelmingly adapted to modern standards of philosophy (liberty, equality, justice, science) and governance (democracy, free markets, human rights), so why shouldn't it be viewed in a different light than Islam which, as a whole, has failed to properly integrate the aforementioned values into their societies?

    Here's a thought experiment to consider if you're still incredulous:

    If you had to choose between living in a random Christian country or a random Muslim country which one would you pick? I think we all know the answer to that one...

    while stating Islam is a cancer which needs to be removed from our world.
    Anyone who claims that Islam is a cancer and needs to be treated as such is obviously going overboard. Something like that doesn't need to be rebutted, we know itís wrong, but this obfuscates a more important point concerning Islam which is this: Islam as a whole needs to better adapt to modern standards of thought and governance. Political correctness be damned. We cannot afford to beat around the bush in order to avoid hurting someone's feelings or offending their precious sensibilities. That there are some peaceful adherents to Islam and some countries making progress simply isn't enough.

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