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Thread: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Oh, come on. We never ruffle feathers .... right?
    Take this:


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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Off topic.

    Still, funny though because most of the senseless murders have been conducted by Islamic militants.
    You mean fake Islamic militans,
    You are talking about a strange logic : "you striked me, I have all the right to strike you" isn't that what you said about Hamas rockets and how had Israel responded to it ?

    Am talking from the same logic (not Bush Necessarily) If any country got striked by another country , I think this country must defend like how Israel did .

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    As long as religion rules government, you mean. Let us not forget the massacre that were the Crusades...
    I was just thinking that exactly...

    Separation of Church and State... one of the magic's of Westernized governments.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Islam was ruled by since its creation, why we hadn't faced problems until the bad rulers appeared, the problem is in the governors, not the religion
    Islamic nations have always been at war and are fighting non-Islamic nations more than any other religious group. Bad rulers have always been in throughout history in every government, and they always will, the problem with Islam, as with any religion, is that if a government is run by the religious leaders, then they will run the country according to their religion and not according to politics which govern us all.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    As long as religion rules government, you mean. Let us not forget the massacre that were the Crusades...
    Let's get back to reality. What happened over a thousand years ago does not help us deal with the problem. The problem we face today is militant Islam. Pointing to bad behavior over a thousand years ago is a useless waste of time and energy.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Let's get back to reality. What happened over a thousand years ago does not help us deal with the problem. The problem we face today is militant Islam. Pointing to bad behavior over a thousand years ago is a useless waste of time and energy.

    Absolutely incorrect.
    It shows us a pattern of behavior with regards to religious leaders in the position of government power.

    There are more modern cases too... the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Protostant/Catholic Wars going on until just recently, the Hindus and the Caste System of today.

    Islam is the Crusades or Inquisition of today, that is all. Get over it.
    His analogy was perfect in what it displayed.



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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Absolutely incorrect.
    It shows us a pattern of behavior with regards to religious leaders in the position of government power.

    There are more modern cases too... the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Protostant/Catholic Wars going on until just recently, the Hindus and the Caste System of today.

    Islam is the Crusades or Inquisition of today, that is all. Get over it.
    His analogy was perfect in what it displayed.

    His analogy is wrong and here is why. State governments were not involved except I think the inguisition. There have always been pockets of insane fanatics in every religion.

    Here is another reason. Christianity does not teach violence or murder in the name of Christianity to further Christianity. Islam does. Get over that.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Islamic nations have always been at war and are fighting non-Islamic nations more than any other religious group. Bad rulers have always been in throughout history in every government, and they always will, the problem with Islam, as with any religion, is that if a government is run by the religious leaders, then they will run the country according to their religion and not according to politics which govern us all.
    Can you support your sayings then, you are talking about the history of my religion, looks that you hadn't heard that Christians were living with Muslims in one nation.

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    Cool Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Unfortunately, you are true about our governments and governers being cowards,,, its the most disgusting fact to me
    But I think they started to wake up on helding those meetings
    I hope those urgent meetings they are doing right now would came by a positive result.
    If the meetings do not deal with the sin of them not helping Palestinians to find some other party than Hamas, it will be a huge tragedy. To have good government of the people, the people must have good instructions.

    I don’t think the Palestinians are getting the right kind of moral support. “Fighting terrorists will only make more terrorists,” is not moral support; it is excusing the reaction, it is making martyrs for a belief that own ideas of justice or taking the law into one’s own hands should be supported (I can quote Saddam’s “own ideas” of the magical “They“), it is immoral support, it is excusing the problem of bad government, it condemns Islam.

    Jenin once said: “Playing Hamas and Fatah off against each other is how Gazans see Israeli/American policy currently.”
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/archiv...tml#post591549 (Hamas' Stand)

    Long before they got to that point your governments should have forced on them an alternative party, by making it clear that Hamas was unacceptable.

    The shear hypocrisy of any Arab nation suggesting going back to 1967 borders with right of return was worth recognition of Israel, while letting the Palestinians elect “peace is only temporary” Hamas, reeks to the highest heavens. It can only be seen by me as a gross caricature of Arab/Muslim policy being influenced by forked tongued devils whispering in their ears. We who have Cherokee cousins in Oklahoma see only a trail of tears from such trickery:

    Saudi Vision for Peace in the Middle East - El-Moneif

    "Hamas Proposes 10-Year Truce For Israeli Withdrawal"
    Islam Online- News Section
    Is that a Joke, or what?

    If Islam is not the problem, a lack of education, and a lack of good government is. Our only real hope is that Islam is not the problem, but all our understanding of it is. Feel free to expose to your friends the forked tongued devils who profess to be followers and protectors of Islam.
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    You mean fake Islamic militans,
    You are talking about a strange logic : "you striked me, I have all the right to strike you" isn't that what you said about Hamas rockets and how had Israel responded to it ?

    Am talking from the same logic (not Bush Necessarily) If any country got striked by another country , I think this country must defend like how Israel did .
    The Islamic militants in the Iraq don't represent the country - they represent their own selfish interests.
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