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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Excuse me, but you are Ignoring the fact that their families are getting killed every day, now the last thing they want to do is looking for peace with the ones who raids them, isn't that a logical argument ?
    Wouldnt you think the Israeli people would feel the same way when they've constantly got to look up and walk around reinforced structures just to get to work or school?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

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    I will presume that most people are familiar with Wikipedia. It describes itself as "an online free-content encyclopedia that anyone can edit", which I translate to mean that anyone can cite one's self as an authority on any and everything.

    The co-founder, Jimmy Wales, describes Wikipedia as "an effort to create and distribute a multilingual free encyclopedia of the highest quality to every single person on the planet in his or her own language." Wikipedia exists to bring knowledge to everyone who seeks it".

    Clearly Wikipedia and it's plethora of contributors are sincere and well-meaning, however characterizing all contibuted information as factual is unrealistic and in many cases patently false. Perhaps it would be more apt for Mr. Wales to describe Wikipedia as a great encyclopedia of an accumulation of biased opinions. For that, it is most definitely of the highest quality.

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    Considering that anyone with an ideological axe to grind and a smattering of writing ability can spin falsehoods on Wikipedia without challenge from the site's editors, clearly it should not be referenced as a valid source for factual information.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Dunno, but in my school a teacher could get fired if spreaded Ideas like that, We know that America supports Israel with weapons to kill Palestinians, we dont need a teacher to tell us that,but in the same time (as I said before), our disagreements are with the government, not with the citizens.
    Ohhhhh. America doesn't support Israel with weapons to defend themselves, but to "kill Palestinians?" Oh those poor Palesitnians.

    Doesn't the world, to include America and Israel, give charity to the Palestinians in which they purchase weapons to kill Israelis? Or does this ignorant propogandous argument go only one way? Perhaps if Palestinians concerned themselves more with progress and society creation rather than opting to be the world's longest running refugee charity case for the sake of fighting an unwinnable war, Palestinians could be as prosperous as Israelis.

    I guess suicide bombers slaughter Israeli citizens because its really the government that angers them? Israelis don't have issues with Palestinians, just Hamas right? This is such a BS illusion. Everyone wants to pretend that the world would be some wonderful lollipop land if only the governments would cease and desist. Somehow, the masses seem to think that governments behave without their population's support or with their population's ignorance. People have come to think that if they state that they only hate the government, that he will be supported by the people of that government or the sympathy of the world will reward their noble accuracies with overwhelming applause.

    Palestinians went from allowing Arabs elsewhere represent them in every cause to supporting the PLO to supporting Hamas. Of course, it took Arafat to see the light for Hamas to rise to power didn't it? And the Israeli government has gone from leader to leader with the support of Israelis hasn't it? It's such BS.

    I shall illustrate further the con game......

    America's enemy in the Pacific was the "Japanese." They shared in the victory until they felt the pain. Today's politically correct sickness would have us only angered at the Japanese government and the poor Japanese citizens who supported and made up their military were simple victims of their own government's actions. The problem in Germany wasn't Germans....it was the Nazis and the regular army and those citizens who supported both......er....Germans. Our enemy in Korea were "Koreans." But something happened during the Vietnam era. But over time we became audience to governments that were not represented by the people. This, more often than not, involved the tribe empowered. In the Middle East, the government was about a specific tribe and not all the people it was supposed to represent.

    But....the Israeli government is very much representative of its people aren't they? Though there are certainly other tribes within and they have representation, the vast majority of the population is Jewish and therefor are represented accurately. To act as if Palestinians have hatred for only the Israeli government and not the people, we imply that the Israeli government is behaving in a manner much more suited to what we see in Muslim tribes. Does the Sudanese represent its people or a specific kind of people? How about Hussein's government? The Saudi government? In the same manner as Israel, Palesitnians are indeed represented by their government. Hamas is their representation. Palestinians celebrate in the streets over Hamas behavior. Therefore, like the Japanese, they also get to feel the pain of supporting their elected government's provocations.

    Palestinians hate Israelis and Israelis hate Palestinians. Own up to it already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Doesn't the world, to include America and Israel, give charity to the Palestinians in which they purchase weapons to kill Israelis? Or does this ignorant propogandous argument go only one way? Perhaps if Palestinians concerned themselves more with progress and society creation rather than opting to be the world's longest running refugee charity case for the sake of fighting an unwinnable war, Palestinians could be as prosperous as Israelis.
    Today, there was signed a us bartered egypt-israel treaty to restrict certain grades of weapons entry into gaza.

    The consistent element is ownership of property, perhaps not mineral rights, however homestead, whereby change can be inspired through mutual forms of compensation.

    Over time, demand is met with purchase paid.

    Wildly concede a claim by a tribe for city state laws.

    Tribe is understood as ethnicity, with some degree of distinct isolation along genetic and cultural lines.

    Could palestinians concede to tribal claims, volitiously relocated/relocating as welcomed immigrants?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Israel's been working on that by expanding their country over the last 60 years to three times it's original size. I think it is quite hilarious when people then wonder why the Palestinians are upset.
    You have made this comment, but Israel is not three times the size of its 1948 boundaries. It has only annexed Golan and East Jesusalem (both illegal) since then. Hardly three times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You have made this comment, but Israel is not three times the size of its 1948 boundaries. It has only annexed Golan and East Jesusalem (both illegal) since then. Hardly three times.
    On a global map it may be near difficult to focus ones eyes on the spot.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    YetIsrael has a history of rapid and ruthless expansion. What is your point?
    Israel has only expanded after wars that were started by Arabs and has actually returned MOST of that territory to Arab states or has withdrawn from it to leave it to Arab terrorists.
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Dude , the system here differs than yours, In the US once you are born In there, you can have the nationality, In Egypt, your are born from Palestini parents, you are palestini .
    There was no such thing as Palestinian when he was born. Heck, part of this "so-called" Palestine was PART of Egypt from 1949-1967!
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Are you purposefully being stupid?
    Please explain now a non-state entity can have national sovereignty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Israel has only expanded after wars that were started by Arabs and has actually returned MOST of that territory to Arab states or has withdrawn from it to leave it to Arab terrorists.
    A conjectural degree of expansionism:

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