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Thread: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for peace ?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    I think the UN was the cause of the problem, We need solutions now ...
    Us Brits must accept a lot of the guilt with the Balfour declaration and the allowance of so much land to be taken by the Jews. But that is done and cannot be undone.

    In practical terms the Palestinians need to work with Israel for peace and a two state solution, that is the only solution left to them.
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Now, let's get back to the thread topic.
    Actually, he decides wether to get in the main topic or not, , I think he'd got all rights to speak in it .

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I was about to ask the same thing. Vader, Hamas qualifies with your descriptor. The civilians do not. They need to do something, but I don't buy that all, or even most are "zealots".

    I was referring to Hamas and those who support them.


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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    This has little to do with religion, it is about something much more important in international relations...land. Palestinians owned the land of what is now Israel or most of it until between 1918-48 when they lost most of it and they have been very pissed off ever since, not without bloody good reason.

    The problem is they have no recourse, they can't militarily take on Israel to get the land back but don't seem to move on and instead some seem intent on ignoring the realities of their situtation and not moving on to make some practical improvements. Hamas and the Palestinians need to move on for practical reasons even if they do have a right to be pissed off.

    Of course the OP shouldn't have been posted on this board, you can't have a decent conservasation with Americans about Israel, even the liberals have their mouths so far up its butt that it can basically do no wrong in their eyes. It is a very strange phenomenon that you just don't see here, even among the real rightwing, few high Tories are such groupies for Israel, in fact quite the opposite often, perhaps it has something do with their attachment to ancient landed wealth.
    That land was once called "Judea" ... the Palestine of which you speak was created by a jew-hating Roman general.

    While I state this ... I will admit that both the modern Jews and Palestinians are decendants of the Cannanites. Therefore, Israel has a right to exist and the Hamas swine need to accept this fact.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Actually, he decides wether to get in the main topic or not, , I think he'd got all rights to speak in it .

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    Actually, that is not correct. Forum rules and all.
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I was referring to Hamas and those who support them.

    Thank you for the clarification.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    That land was once called "Judea" ... the Palestine of which you speak was created by a jew-hating Roman general.

    While I state this ... I will admit that both the modern Jews and Palestinians are decendants of the Cannanites. Therefore, Israel has a right to exist and the Hamas swine need to accept this fact.
    Firstly as you seem to admit the Palestinians have generally been there as long the Jews. Secondly we are not talking ancient history but sixty years ago, within living memory. It is a different situation.

    Israel did not have a right to exist in 1918 when about 8% of those who live on what is Israel today were Jewish. Today it does have a right to exist, but I'm not an American and won't sweep what happened completely under the rug.
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Thank you for the clarification.
    Sure thing!


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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    I heard from talk radio that Hamas rockets Israel because
    Israel blocks free trade with Gaza. But Israel knows that
    free trade with Gaza will bring in more rockets.

    To quote Jim Morrison: "The only solution, isn't it amazing?"
    Take the red pill.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Actually, Hamas was the Best of the Worse that time, civilians got no choise .
    I have to disagree with that. There WAS a better choice. The Gazans simply didn't go along with it - and now they are paying for their choice. Which is better off right now? The West Bank or Gaza. It should be recognized at the present point in time that the two really operate as two separate states. Is that the future of the region? One Israel and TWO Palestinian states?
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