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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just so you are aware,. holding Israel to a higher set of expectations than others is one of the criteria that the EU identifies as anti-semitism. You might be surprised to know what else is defined as anti-semetic.

    From the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC):

    And I do not hold your passions against you. Just remember to try to temper them with more critical observation when you get caught up in the moment.
    My higher expectations of Israel are in response to their actions which have been condemned by other democratic nations. There is no comparable situation in which to compare my expectations of Israel to. Such a statement is ambiguous and could not possibly be argued. Israel is unique in every way, find me a democracy with similar history and I'll gladly rethink my analysis.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    This site has info about what qualifies a refuge from the 1948 and 1967 wars as well as the rights they are to receive under international law. I want information on the Israeli law that allows Palestinians citizenship.

    Gaza would not be unstable if the Israelis simply kept it.
    Appeasing Arab/Palestinian demands is like appeasing Hitler.
    Israel's made concessions in the West Bank, is the situation there improving?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    In the parent-child analogy, it is the child that has made the decision to operate as refugees by acting in the way they do. The West Bank children do not, and are not. This is not setting a child up for failure. This is a child refusing everything because it wants its own way and nothing else.
    The West Bank is seeing prosperity with the help of Israeli policing and a popular moderate government. Gaza was taken after civil war by Hamas, blockaded, and left on its own.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    The whole situation is shameful and idiotic. The Israelis foolishly believe that Hamas can be eliminated by violence, and that peace can be maintained through a shameful and unjust occupation. Hamas idiodically believes that the occupation can be ended by violence.
    Honestly I don't know why anyone would defend either side at this point. I do not adhere to the political consensus around here that Israel can do whatever it wants, blow up as many buildings, kill as many women and children as it does. At the same time I do not believe that there is any conceivable moral justification for blindly lobbing rockets into Israel, killing civilians. Shame on both sides, and God help the poor people trying to live peaceful lives in that troubled place.
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    Six months from now Israel will release bus loads of “Palestinians” from jail, and a few months after will be seen killing again. The pattern will repeat year after year for another generation or two, and every year a “what‘s his name” will still be held by some squat to leak Al Quacky Hezbollah...

    The tragedy here is the lukewarm “liberal” arts of war, and the mealy-mouthed creatures who so hate violence, so a side cannot win a WAR, by design they enable and have created more terrorists and endless death than any unrelenting war ever created.

    “OH NO, we might make a terrorist.”

    Put an iron boot on the necks of Palestinians until they get their mind right. If the squat to leaks dress like women and shove salami bombs up their butts, rip off the veil and frack their squat to leaks until their race calls us grandpa. The only good Hamas is a dead Hamas.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Hamas fired rockets weeks before, Israel is firing rockets since their invasion.
    I have to call the "bull**** card" on this one.

    Israel did not do anything until Hamas attacked first.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by DivineComedy View Post
    Uh, excuse me, I think Ahmed Shaheen’s point could be interpreted as one of self-determination (government/people) only have the right to partition. Maybe like a need to get into the Balfour Declaration thingy and who had authority after the Muslims sailed the ocean blue with their Jewish friends to rest on Ottomans in 1492, and the defeat in WWI which created a vacuum the so-called Palestinians did not take advantage of to beat Israel to the punch for 1948 borders. I am assuming that from Mr. Shaheen’s point of view Balfour was illegal and this is not about hypocrisy (which is the most hated of God), the Arab king had no right to give anything away. The only way around that is the fact the Ottoman Empire invited Jews into it as a precedent, the government of the defeated let Jews into it, the “zoning” like maps used to partition prove Jews occupied it, the Jews beat so-called Palestinians (really just Arabs) to the legal punch of Nationhood; Jews had a right to 1948 borders (government) before the Arabs attacked, and to more after they attacked and lost, all according to laws of conquest in absence of UN power, as nothing is without change. The so-called Palestinians and the Arab League should have proven themselves with the PLO and Arab states attaching Jordan in 1967, who was the occupier of Palestine at the time the PLO charter was created, they did not, the so-called Palestinians lost firm claim to the land right then.

    Now, turn on your speakers, put this in a program to read it to you, and listen carefully.

    “It's not going to change,” is an invalid argument. Liberalism and multiculturalism can kill Israeli culture by taking “In God We Trust” off the bible belt’s flag...if you know what I mean, and surely unresolved and continual warfare with states using terrorist proxies with impunity, with the aid and comfort of Oslo legally forgiving terrorism by the PLO, with “liberal“ Israelis basically saying lucrative life insurance for Hamas suicide bombers is not support for terrorism in violation of H32 of UN resolution 687 and a material breach of 1441, the cry “It's not going to change” is no defense of borders. The proverbs teach to bring the little kiddies up as you would have them go, for they understood nurture and cultural keeping, but the law also has a plan for nature’s child being too wild and unable to learn. “Liberals” are stupid about change and historically get surprised by its Obamanations.
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by DivineComedy View Post
    Uh, excuse me, I think Ahmed Shaheen’s point could be interpreted as one of self-determination (government/people) only have the right to partition. Maybe like a need to get into the Balfour Declaration thingy and who had authority after the Muslims sailed the ocean blue with their Jewish friends to rest on Ottomans in 1492, and the defeat in WWI which created a vacuum the so-called Palestinians did not take advantage of to beat Israel to the punch for 1948 borders. I am assuming that from Mr. Shaheen’s point of view Balfour was illegal and this is not about hypocrisy (which is the most hated of God), the Arab king had no right to give anything away. The only way around that is the fact the Ottoman Empire invited Jews into it as a precedent, the government of the defeated let Jews into it, the “zoning” like maps used to partition prove Jews occupied it, the Jews beat so-called Palestinians (really just Arabs) to the legal punch of Nationhood; Jews had a right to 1948 borders (government) before the Arabs attacked, and to more after they attacked and lost, all according to laws of conquest in absence of UN power, as nothing is without change. The so-called Palestinians and the Arab League should have proven themselves with the PLO and Arab states attaching Jordan in 1967, who was the occupier of Palestine at the time the PLO charter was created, they did not, the so-called Palestinians lost firm claim to the land right then.

    Now, turn on your speakers, put this in a program to read it to you, and listen carefully.

    “It's not going to change,” is an invalid argument. Liberalism and multiculturalism can kill Israeli culture by taking “In God We Trust” off the bible belt’s flag...if you know what I mean, and surely unresolved and continual warfare with states using terrorist proxies with impunity, with the aid and comfort of Oslo legally forgiving terrorism by the PLO, with “liberal“ Israelis basically saying lucrative life insurance for Hamas suicide bombers is not support for terrorism in violation of H32 of UN resolution 687 and a material breach of 1441, the cry “It's not going to change” is no defense of borders. The proverbs teach to bring the little kiddies up as you would have them go, for they understood nurture and cultural keeping, but the law also has a plan for nature’s child being too wild and unable to learn. “Liberals” are stupid about change and historically get surprised by its Obamanations.
    Thats What Iam exactly talking about concerning Balfour Declaration and the UN partition .

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Thats What Iam exactly talking about concerning Balfour Declaration and the UN partition .
    And what is wrong with the UN partition? Oh, it didn't give EVERYTHING lock, stock, and barrel to the Arabs. THAT is what was wrong with the UN partition.
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