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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Now you are using my "moron" comment against me?
    Dude, do you have anything of your own?

    That ONE QUOTE is just a quick find one that I grabbed.
    How does it NOT indicate that the Old Testament contains violence though?

    Hmmm.... maybe you can explain how that quote is peacefull?

    I already offered you another debate, one that you did not accept.
    What do you want me to do now? I guess I will go surfing in a few...

    Oh... and since you agreed to my point after initially NOT agreeing, that is called CONCEDING. Look man, it is just the definition of the word, nothing complicated. Just simple English. It is alright, I know you are having trouble with this whole thing...


    concede   /kənˈsid/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhn-seed] Show IPA Pronunciation
    verb, -ced⋅ed, -ced⋅ing.
    –verb (used with object)

    1. to acknowledge as true, just, or proper; admit: He finally conceded that she was right.
    2. to acknowledge (an opponent's victory, score, etc.) before it is officially established: to concede an election before all the votes are counted.
    3. to grant as a right or privilege; yield: to concede a longer vacation for all employees.
    –verb (used without object) 4. to make concession; yield; admit: She was so persistent that I conceded at last.


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    Who is the quote attributed to? Hang around folks. I don't think he'll follow up, but if he does this is going to be fun to watch.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    How many people did Jesus behead or kill and how many people did Mohammed behead or kill?
    None and a lot.

    jesus definetly taught peace while, at least initially... and 1.5 thousand years after that, Islam spread by the sword. Dang, Islam got all the way to the steps of Vienna, Austria before gradually being pushed back.

    Christians fought many wars against others and each other, over religion too, but not due to any teaching from Jesus, it was more of a way of killing others for not believing the same exact thing about Jesus as they did. Prot/Cath for example.

    I completely agree with you, Walleye, on these points.
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Who is the quote attributed to? Hang around folks. I don't think he'll follow up, but if he does this is going to be fun to watch.
    Unless you can tell me why that is relevant, I don't care.
    It is in the Old Testament and that is all that I am displaying.
    Violence in the Chrisitian Old Testament... boom. Done.

    Oh, and you don't debate the snippet thing or the conceding thing either,
    So I guess that since you are moving on and ignoring those, you are
    Conceding to my being correct about those two points as well.
    Last edited by Bodhisattva; 01-24-09 at 07:10 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I just provided evidence from multiple sources showing that Christianity comprises MUCH MORE than just what Jesus taught. Focus... please.
    Christianity is the entire New Testament. Christian == follower of Christ. The Old Testament rituals and laws are dead.

    Focus.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Unless you can tell me why that is relevant, I don't care.
    It is in the Old Testament and that is all that I am displaying.
    Violence in the Chrisitian Old Testament... boom. Done.

    Oh, and you don't debate the snippet thing or the conceding thing either,
    So I guess that since you are moving on and ignoring those, you are
    Conceding to my being correct about those two points as well.
    Yes, it is violence but it is not condoned. Just because it is written about doesn't mean it is right. Example....Job thought for sure it was God punishing him, but by reading the book we find out it was the devil who killed his family and ruined him and it was God who blessed him afterwards. It is in the bible, but it was not God.

    I don't expect you to see the difference, but hopefully some of this will sink in. Is there an adult there to help you? Is your mommy home?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Christianity is the entire New Testament. Christian == follower of Christ. The Old Testament rituals and laws are dead.

    Focus.
    What do you mean by "they are dead", weren't they a part of christian testament once.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Matthew 27:5 "And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself"

    Luke 10:37 "Go, and do thou likewise".


    See how easy this is? I just used the bible to condone suicide.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    What do you mean by "they are dead", weren't they a part of christian testament once.
    No. Christians do not follow any of the rituals or dietary laws, etc, in the Old Testament. They are dead. Jesus on the cross said "it is finished". Gone, dead, over. Finished.

    Christians live in a new Covenant (Testament). It's like if you have a will and testament and you tear it up and make a new one. The old one is no longer in effect.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Christianity is the entire New Testament. Christian == follower of Christ. The Old Testament rituals and laws are dead.

    Focus.
    Holy Cow! Are you serious?

    You just agreed that:

    Christian Bible
    The Christian Bible consists of the Hebrew scriptures, which have been called the Old Testament, and some later writings known as the New Testament.

    Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Old Testament
    The Old Testament is the collection of books written prior to the life of Jesus but accepted by Christians as scripture ... Several Christian denominations also incorporate additional books into their canons of the Old Testament.

    Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Bible
    the sacred scriptures of Judaism and Christianity. The Christian Bible consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament

    Bible -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
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    By saying that you agreed , "I agree the entire bible is scripture" - Walleye


    Scripture   /ˈskrɪptʃər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [skrip-cher] Show IPA Pronunciation

    –noun 1. Often, Scriptures. Also called Holy Scripture, Holy Scriptures. the sacred writings of the Old or New Testaments or both together


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    Jeez... let's look at this one AGAIN:

    Bible
    the sacred scriptures of Judaism and Christianity. The Christian Bible consists of the Old Testament and the New Testament
    Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT. Look, if you are simply gonna be obtuse about this, then that is fine. I can deal with it if you are joking, or lying for some kicks, and even if you are serious about it (ie Delusional).

    Just realize that all intellectually honest people understand that Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT because it is so. Don't blame me, blame the dictionaries and the encyclopedias. They deserve your "moron" comments and your scorn. I am just the messenger...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Holy Cow! Are you serious?

    You just agreed that:



    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1057898053


    By saying that you agreed , "I agree the entire bible is scripture" - Walleye


    Scripture   /ˈskrɪptʃər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [skrip-cher] Show IPA Pronunciation

    –noun 1. Often, Scriptures. Also called Holy Scripture, Holy Scriptures. the sacred writings of the Old or New Testaments or both together


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    Jeez... let's look at this one AGAIN:



    Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT. Look, if you are simply gonna be obtuse about this, then that is fine. I can deal with it if you are joking, or lying for some kicks, and even if you are serious about it (ie Delusional).

    Just realize that all intellectually honest people understand that Christianity is BOTH the New AND THE OLD TESTAMENT because it is so. Don't blame me, blame the dictionaries and the encyclopedias. They deserve your "moron" comments and your scorn. I am just the messenger...
    I can't help it if you're dense. The fact is the entire bible is scripture and I believe that. Another fact is that the Old Testament rituals and laws are not in effect. They are dead. Finished. That does not mean that the Old Testament is no longer scripture. It is still the Word of God. Christians live under the New Covenant (Testament).

    I can't help it if you can't grasp this truth. If you choose to remain ignorant then that is your choice. Here is a link. I hope this helps.

    Question: "Do Christians have to obey the Old Testament law?"

    Answer: The key to understanding this issue is knowing that the Old Testament Law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to reveal to the Israelites how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments for example). Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin (the sacrificial system). Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law applies to us today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

    In place of the Old Testament law, we are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2), which is to, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind … and to love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:37-39). If we obey those two commands, we will be fulfilling all that Christ requires of us, “All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:40). Now, this does not mean the Old Testament Law is irrelevant today. Many of the commands in the Old Testament Law fall into the categories of “loving God” and “loving your neighbor.” The Old Testament Law can be a good “guidepost” for knowing how to love God and knowing what goes into loving your neighbor. At the same time, to say that the Old Testament Law applies to Christians today is incorrect. The Old Testament Law is a unit (James 2:10). Either all of it applies, or none of it applies. If Christ fulfilled some it, such as the sacrificial system, He fulfilled all of it.

    “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3). The Ten Commandments were essentially a summary of the entire Old Testament Law. Nine of the Ten Commandments are clearly repeated in the New Testament (all except the command to observe the Sabbath day). Obviously, if we are loving God we will not be worshipping false gods or bowing down before idols. If we are loving our neighbors, we will not be murdering them, lying to them, committing adultery against them, or coveting what belongs to them. The purpose of the Old Testament Law is to point people to their need for Jesus Christ as Savior (Romans 7:7-9; Galatians 3:24). The Old Testament Law was never intended by God to be the universal law for all people for all of time. We are to love God and love our neighbors. If we obey those two commands faithfully, we will be upholding all that God requires of us.
    Do Christians have to obey the Old Testament law?
    Last edited by walleye; 01-24-09 at 07:42 PM.

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