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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests : Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
    Your religion allows for women to be stoned to death and for homosexuals to be hung. You have no right to talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Killing Fortunetellers : "A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death." (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
    That is an old testiment rule that have been obsolete for thousands of years. The last time it was really used was in Nazi Germany ... and we all know how that ended.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Killing Nonbelievers : "They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman." (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
    Not used anymore. We do not require people to join the state religion. Your country does. Again ... you shouldn't be talking.

    In Iran it is illegal to convert away from Islam. For a man this carries a death sentence; a woman gets life in prision.

    In the civilized world, there is no punisment for converting.

    The muslim world is not so kind:
    The Muslim Bible commands Muslims to murder all non-Muslims:

    "O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)

    "When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)

    "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)

    "When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)

    "In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)
    "How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)

    "Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)


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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The Muslim Bible commands Muslims to murder all non-Muslims:

    "O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)

    "When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)

    "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)

    "When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)

    "In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)
    "How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)

    "Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)

    Really? You should go back and read the last 2 pages of this thread.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Looks like violence and murder in the name of Islam to me. It's just a "mistranslation" I guess.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Looks like violence and murder in the name of Islam to me. It's just a "mistranslation" I guess.
    There is violence in the Qurayn, Torah and Bible. This has been shown to you many times. Why choose to focus your hatred on one book and never scrutinize your own is beyond me. Ignorance is bliss, huh?
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    There is violence in the Qurayn, Torah and Bible. This has been shown to you many times. Why choose to focus your hatred on one book and never scrutinize your own is beyond me. Ignorance is bliss, huh?
    Yes, I know there is violence in the bible. I will continue to clarify until you get my point. Islam promotes violence when necessary to further the cause of Islam. Christianity and Judaism do not. The muslims today who advocate violence are using the Koran as their reason. I will keep hammering that point until you and others get it. Ahmed Shaheen advocated violence to further the cause of Islam right here a few days ago.
    Last edited by walleye; 01-24-09 at 02:43 PM.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    Yes, I know there is violence in the bible. I will continue to clarify until you get my point. Islam promotes violence when necessary to further the cause of Islam.
    I will clarify further: You have yet to prove that your opinion is a truth. Until you do so, you can not expect me to take you seriously.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I will clarify further: You have yet to prove that your opinion is a truth. Until you do so, you can not expect me to take you seriously.
    You are denying that muslims around the world are using violence and murder to further the cause of Islam?

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    You are denying that muslims around the world are using violence and murder to further the cause of Islam?
    What is this cause of Islam that you keep referring to?

    As for what you said about Jesus being the founder of Christianity and the New Testament... Paul was the founder of modern Christianity and contains the most authored pieces in the New Testament.

    But you never bring in the Old Testament, even though Jesus said it was God's Word:
    "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35)
    "...the commandment of God" (Matthew 15:3)
    "Word of God" (Matthew 15:6)

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    What is this cause of Islam that you keep referring to?

    As for what you said about Jesus being the founder of Christianity and the New Testament... Paul was the founder of modern Christianity and contains the most authored pieces in the New Testament.

    But you never bring in the Old Testament, even though Jesus said it was God's Word:
    "The Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35)
    "...the commandment of God" (Matthew 15:3)
    "Word of God" (Matthew 15:6)
    Paul was not the founder of "modern Christianity". I don't know what you mean by "modern Christianity". Those who follow Jesus are called Christians. Christians do not follow Paul. Paul wrote a good part of the New Testament but his words were from Jesus. That's what he said.

    The Old Testament is a book of history and laws that were put away when Jesus made the new covenant (testament).

    My point is that Christianity does not condone violence to further the cause of Christianity.

    The "cause" of Islam is the furthering of Islam as a belief. That is why 9/11 happened. The USA is an ally of Israel and there are muslims who do not like that fact because they do not want anything in the middle east but Islam. There are many muslims who will condone the use of violence to further Islam. That is the "cause". There are many muslims who will demand death and beheading for those who insult Islam. The "insult" could be anything derogatory or negative about Islam. I am being accused by some on this site of spreading hate for quoting the Koran. If they had their way I am sure they would do violence to me.

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    Re: OMG.. About 300 killed and 700 injured. Do you think Israel still seeking for pea

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    There is violence in the Qurayn, Torah and Bible. This has been shown to you many times. Why choose to focus your hatred on one book and never scrutinize your own is beyond me. Ignorance is bliss, huh?
    I was countering Ahmed's post nothing more.

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