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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Smart. Everyone does stupid things, only a smart person can come up with something so profoundly intelligent to make doing stupid things easier.

    For example, the wright brothers were doing something incredibly stupid by taking to the air for the first time with a mechanical device.They were not the first; many others flew, but using a glider. The brothers simply added the engine.. The odds of dying were astronomical.No, not true, they , and others, had many accidents which did not kill them. Hundreds of people died attempting this ludicrous dangerous and incredibly stupid thing before them.

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    Todays man seems to be living in so much fear, that if they were prevalent 100 years ago, we would have no air travel....

    Not a good example, and I do not buy into this "dumb' and "stupid" terminology.
    I, for one, can dream up many things, but with added thought, most are poor ideas, but some are good, IMO...and of those, someone smarter or more ambitious has patented or discarded...

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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Would you rather someone else have that technology first? Someone would have invented it.
    If the nuclear bomb was not invented during and as a result of the second world war, and lets say the US stopped Japan militarily instead with the help of others. Then why would the nuclear bomb have been developed by someone else when they wouldnt have known the theory behind it nor have the need for something like it?
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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    If the nuclear bomb was not invented during and as a result of the second world war, and lets say the US stopped Japan militarily instead with the help of others. Then why would the nuclear bomb have been developed by someone else when they wouldnt have known the theory behind it nor have the need for something like it?
    Hitler was also working on the bomb.

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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    If the nuclear bomb was not invented during and as a result of the second world war, and lets say the US stopped Japan militarily instead with the help of others. Then why would the nuclear bomb have been developed by someone else when they wouldnt have known the theory behind it nor have the need for something like it?
    Scientists are curious folks. They were studying the atom already. They would have known the awesome power and put 2 and 2 together. We also have nuclear energy. There was a need for that.

    And who can quantify how many lives have been spared by MAD?
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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hitler was also working on the bomb.
    Yes, I know this, but Hitler was also stupid about things. Dont glorify him

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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Scientists are curious folks. They were studying the atom already. They would have known the awesome power and put 2 and 2 together. We also have nuclear energy. There was a need for that.

    And who can quantify how many lives have been spared by MAD?
    True.. But in the end the atom BOMB is a pretty stupid invention, especially knowing it could one day put an end to human life.
    The ability to fly however was a smart idea.. I am just trying to separate smart and dumb ideas that came though due to clever methods, as an example. Its easy to misunderstand the intention of the poll.

    I can use the Iraq war as another example. The cunning and clever methods of fooling the people into such a stupid idea. Thats in the end just dumb, even though the methodology of achieving this dumb goal was smart.
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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    True.. But in the end the atom BOMB is a pretty stupid invention, especially knowing it could one day put an end to human life.
    The ability to fly however was a smart idea.. I am just trying to separate smart and dumb ideas that came though due to clever methods, as an example. Its easy to misunderstand the intention of the poll.
    particularly since no intention was stated in the OP?

    the atom bomb may seem stupid to you, but "putting an end to human life" isn't necessarily a qualifier. the atom bomb saved lives when it was used instead of soldiers to end the war in japan, for example. inventing a bomb is therefore a very clever defensive/tactical move. whether you object to it on moral grounds has little to do with the "stupidity" of it.

    by making "smart" (flying) and "stupid" (killing) entirely dependent on your personal opinion, you are making it difficult to debate, to say the least.

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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    If you knows that what you are doing is dump, then you are smart ...

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    mad Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    by making "smart" (flying) and "stupid" (killing) entirely dependent on your personal opinion, you are making it difficult to debate, to say the least.
    That just tells a lot more about you. Killing AINT smart. Geez. Arent you typical American or what?
    ITS NOT MY ****ING PERSONAL OPINION THAT KILLING IS STUPID, MOST NORMAL PEOPLE THINK SO.. Wow.. Now my anger is just boiling over at you.. I am just going to refrain from answering your next post out of fear that I will get banned when I really take of my gloves and tell you what I think of you, your last post and probably that next post.
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    Re: Is this smart or stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Are you smart or dumb if you achieve something that is dumb & stupid with clever & smart methods?
    Lets say the "goal" is something completely stupid that only a moron would think about, but the "methods" for achieving it is enormously clever and smart..
    Is the person then dumb for failing to realize that the result is dumb or is he smart for actually achieving it in a smart and clever way?


    ONLY two options.Feel free to debate it as much as you want tho, but don't complain about the options, choose one of them.
    If it's stupid, but it works, it wasn't stupid.

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