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  • I support Oftencold's Rec. Drug Legalization Proposal

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  • I do not support Oftencold's Rec. Drug Legalization Proposal

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  • Oftencold's Rec. Drug Legalization Proposal is too harsh

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  • Oftencold's Rec. Drug Legalization Proposal in to lenient

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Thread: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

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    A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

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    I have come up with a model that I believe would allow me to support general legalization of all recreational drugs, and I'd like to know your opinions on the matter.
    These conditions would first have to be met:
    1. A constitutional ban on all public funds spent on drug rehabilitation. (Exception: persons who became dependent through medical treatment or through the actions of others)
    2. A constitutional provision that any recreational drug affected individual trespassing on private property for any reason shall have been deemed to have acted in a life threatening manner to legitimate occupants or visitors on said property. (Purpose: to exonerate anyone who uses any form of force, including deadly force to defend against drug affected trespasser.)
    3. Loss of tax-free and non-profit status from any activities of any organization designed to provide drug rehabilitation services.
    4. Complete absolution of responsibility by government at any level fort the quality, purity or efficaciousness of any recreational drug.
    5. Severe penalties, at least comparable to those engendered by alcohol intoxication for any act damaging to life or limb while under the influence of recreational drugs.
    Last edited by Oftencold; 12-27-08 at 06:29 PM.

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    Good luck ammending the Constitution

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    I heard of people who now collect social security because they were on meth and now are manic depressive because of the use. Only 26 years old! How they even qualify for SS is beyond me? But I guess what I am getting at is I can't image what our country would be like if drug use was allowed to spread like the plague.

    Countries like China and Russia would pass us up in no time if drugs became legal.

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    I heard of studies where a mouse was to pass through an elecrical charge to get to their food. The charge was gradually raised and they reached a point where they would not go to the food.
    They replaced the food with a drug and the mice would die trying to get to the drug.

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    I heard of people who now collect social security because they were on meth and now are manic depressive because of the use. Only 26 years old! How they even qualify for SS is beyond me? But I guess what I am getting at is I can't image what our country would be like if drug use was allowed to spread like the plague.

    Countries like China and Russia would pass us up in no time if drugs became legal.
    Please understand, that Ii agree with your position. But so many of our neighbors seem to think that we are backward for opposing total drug freedom. My proposal is just a way to illustrate what I would need to see to support the notion.
    Last edited by Oftencold; 12-27-08 at 07:55 PM.

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    Let some other nation do the experimenting for us...There should be many willing or stupid enough to do this.....To the best of my knowledge, there is no proof that we will act as mice ..or sheep ??...and en-mass take drugs with no responsibility or acceptance of the consequences..

    Roger Clemens
    Barry Bonds
    two known examples from thousands..

    I do favor the concept of legalized drugs (taxed and controlled) for those foolish enough to use them...
    Our taxing abilities are so-so..; but I have doubts with the controlling..

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    [POLL, is public and multiple choice]

    I have come up with a model that I believe would allow me to support general legalization of all recreational drugs, and I'd like to know your opinions on the matter.
    These conditions would first have to be met:
    1. A constitutional ban on all public funds spent on drug rehabilitation. (Exception: persons who became dependent through medical treatment or through the actions of others)
    2. A constitutional provision that any recreational drug affected individual trespassing on private property for any reason shall have been deemed to have acted in a life threatening manner to legitimate occupants or visitors on said property. (Purpose: to exonerate anyone who uses any form of force, including deadly force to defend against drug affected trespasser.)
    3. Loss of tax-free and non-profit status from any activities of any organization designed to provide drug rehabilitation services.
    4. Complete absolution of responsibility by government at any level fort the quality, purity or efficaciousness of any recreational drug.
    5. Severe penalties, at least comparable to those engendered by alcohol intoxication for any act damaging to life or limb while under the influence of recreational drugs.
    This is pretty much the most retarded plan ive ever heard. for anyone who has been addicted to drugs or has knowen anyone who has, knows that drug addiction is an illness not a crime. The ammount of money wasted on prison places for drug addicts, is astronomical, these are not violent people, they are ill people.

    If you legalised recreational drugs, monitereed their purity, and reinserted tax revenues back into rehabilitation centers the country would not only have a far more mature attitute towards drugs but crime levels would plumet.

    In Holland weed is legally sold in shops prevailance of lifetime use of weed is around 17%, in the USA where you can in some states go to prison for possesion prevailance of liftiem use is around 36%.
    apologies for teh bad sepeeling

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    But so many of our neighbors seem to think that we are backward for opposing total drug freedom.
    You mean all our neighbors that have, for the most part, the same drug laws as we do?

    That said... I am in favor of the legalization of recreational drugs-- and the legalization of purchasing medicine without prescriptions-- but I would not approve of your legislation. I would prefer the current status quo of the War on Drugs to the reckless policies you have proposed here. All pharmaceuticals should be subject to strict governmental regulations regarding their manufacture and sale, and I believe that a surtax on their purchase would be more than enough to pay for the kind of treatment programs you think should be abolished.

    Besides, if we pay for these programs when drugs are illegal-- and the decision to use drugs still lies entirely with the user-- why should we not do so when they are legal and regulated? Do you also propose that we should deny Medicare benefits to drinkers and smokers, after they have paid for those services with their hard-earned money?

    I do support your #2 and #5 proposals, however. I would support passing those even without legalizing anything else-- though I do believe that #5 is already the law in this country.
    Last edited by Korimyr the Rat; 12-28-08 at 03:19 PM.

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    III
    Please understand, that Ii agree with your position. But so many of our neighbors seem to think that we are backward for opposing total drug freedom. My proposal is just a way to illustrate what I would need to see to support the notion.
    Also I am going to assume thes drug laws include alcahol?
    apologies for teh bad sepeeling

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    Re: A Proposal for Legalizing all Recreational Drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    [POLL, is public and multiple choice]

    These conditions would first have to be met:
    1. A constitutional ban on all public funds spent on drug rehabilitation. (Exception: persons who became dependent through medical treatment or through the actions of others)
    I voted too lenient because of the exception in parentheses. good grief that would get expensive. actions of others??

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