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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Its people like YOU who make it difficult then for the human race to work together. Its out common human responsibility to work together to ensure that everyone in the world have decent lives, not just Europeans and Americans. We as "better" people sure can afford and sure have a responsibility to help the weaker.
    But I guess, perhaps you just smile when you pass a homeless person on the streets?

    You are EXACTLY wrong. Its up to us to help them feed themselves, to help them use condoms and other birth control so they don't multiply in such great numbers and cause even more misery, to put a stop to everything and just say "lets make this work, lets change things".
    The answers are enormously complicated, the solutions difficult and hard, but we have to do it eventually, they are also holding us back, they are holding the human race back.
    How much aid have we been sending people all over the world and they're STILL starving? If you believe that the starving people get that aid and their evil governments don't get their hands on it first, you are very naive. The dictators running these countries could give a rat's ass about the people. They live in squalor while their "leaders" live high on the hog...no doubt because of our "aid". I have nothing against helping people if I knew for sure they were going to get it!

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    How much aid have we been sending people all over the world and they're STILL starving? If you believe that the starving people get that aid and their evil governments don't get their hands on it first, you are very naive. The dictators running these countries could give a rat's ass about the people. They live in squalor while their "leaders" live high on the hog...no doubt because of our "aid". I have nothing against helping people if I knew for sure they were going to get it!
    I am not saying we should continue to "help" people in such a ridiculous way as we currently do. We need to create real programs, supported by all countries which can afford it, into helping the poor help them self. We shouldn't drop food at the starving, we should teach them to build up their own agriculture, and pay them food to do so.This would sure be a much more noble cause to use military might in than to rob a country of its natural resources and sovereignty.

    I think concerning all that involves politics and society of today we have to start thinking DIFFERENTLY than we do, or else the spiral just heads downwards.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    DEmocracy can work if it's kept local and not extended too large. The problem is that we've got too many opinions that people want to have nationwide application of. That creates the dichotomy in our political system, which is the most self-serving of all entities.

    There is nothing wrong with direct rule being by the people in a local sense. Let people vote on local ordinances, and do what they can to control their own local sphere to whatever degree they wish.

    The problem with democracy is when too many people of different backgrounds and such want to have input at the largest level. Special interests become the strongest voices and they will manipulate the people and the system in such a way to achieve their own ends.

    The country was designed to be a alliance of states joined together under the constitution, which outlined common goals.

    Each state and local area was to have it's own degree of autonomy to do as they saw fit within their borders so long as they were in keeping with the common goals of the Union as a whole.

    But now, big brother government is far, far too large and both parties seek to continue this expansion, just in different ways.

    The only way to fix this is to reduce the power/size of the federal government over the states and the people.
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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Each state and local area was to have it's own degree of autonomy to do as they saw fit within their borders so long as they were in keeping with the common goals of the Union as a whole..
    Do any of the states actually have any autonomy left? Aside from California which have demonstrated this a few times..
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    How much aid have we been sending people all over the world and they're STILL starving? If you believe that the starving people get that aid and their evil governments don't get their hands on it first, you are very naive. The dictators running these countries could give a rat's ass about the people. They live in squalor while their "leaders" live high on the hog...no doubt because of our "aid". I have nothing against helping people if I knew for sure they were going to get it!
    We give money to dictators?

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    We give money to dictators?
    I think her point was crystal clear... they get it INDIRECTLY.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    We are ONE human race arent we? Dont we all have a common destiny? Isnt it in American and European interest that others are better developed as well? As a result we would benefit greatly from that.

    Yeah, but there is only so much that we can do.
    Isn't it you that is always railing on America for going out and "Policing" the world?
    Look at Somalia. We were doing a great thing there and people gave us **** over it.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think her point was crystal clear... they get it INDIRECTLY.
    Crystal clear if you enjoy having your view confirmed. A crystal clear point, for me, has details and support.

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Yeah, but there is only so much that we can do.
    Isn't it you that is always railing on America for going out and "Policing" the world?
    Look at Somalia. We were doing a great thing there and people gave us **** over it.
    You didnt do a great thing in Somalia at all.. We never do great things to others here in the west, we only make things worse. Somalia is the worlds most failed state now, it wasnt before the US involvement down there.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Another Great Depression?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Crystal clear if you enjoy having your view confirmed. A crystal clear point, for me, has details and support.
    One has to give details and support to make a point that is clear?

    My daughter is having a time out since she is unwilling to share. ]
    What is my point? It is crystal clear... she is having a time out for not sharing.
    Is the point not valid since I didn't offer you support and details?

    Her point was crystal clear. Indirectly... the money from our aid get's into dictators hands.

    Not understanding her point is very different from it being valid.
    Not understanding her point does not make it less clear of a point,
    Just less clear to you... get it? It is not a rip.
    I don't get points once in a great while.
    That doesn't make the point any less clear though...



    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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