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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Our ability to measure chemicals and other properties? You don't even know what you are saying so just stop talking out of your ass, okay? What's next? Claiming that the observable universe is only 5 million light years in diameter? Oh, wait, you already did that....
    Sorry I thought I was dealing with a more rational and somewhat educated person.

    The Spitzer Space Telescope has been measuring temperatures, atmospheres and orbits of planets light-years from Earth since 1993:
    Spitzer Space Telescope

    and To some extent so does the Kepler, Chandra X-ray telescope, Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory , and of course the Hubble telescope.

    For those that want more information in science's search for life and habitable planets:

    PlanetQuest: Exoplanet Exploration

    Exoplanet Exploration Program
    Last edited by Joe1991; 06-28-09 at 12:06 AM.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lopettaa View Post
    What if the enemy in the cosmos don't kill each other in wars like we do here on earth. Would that prove how intelligent they are?
    Well, I would hope they would have a spirit that would lean toward embracing cultivation. For if they wanted to destroy us I think it would be easy for a superior entity to make an enemy we could not battle. (i.e.trillions of self recycling nanobot ants two-hundredth the size of our smallest ant)
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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Sorry I thought I was dealing with a more rational and somewhat educated person.

    The Spitzer Space Telescope has been measuring temperatures, atmospheres and orbits of planets light-years from Earth since 1993:
    Spitzer Space Telescope

    and To some extent so does the Kepler, Chandra X-ray telescope, Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory , and of course the Hubble telescope.

    For those that want more information in science's search for life and habitable planets:

    PlanetQuest: Exoplanet Exploration

    Exoplanet Exploration Program

    Are you aware of the limitations the planet-search currently labors under? They mostly find large or massive worlds due to their search methods, limited by our current technology. The astronomers admit that finding worlds about the size and mass of Earth is almost impossible right now...but within a few years it may be much more feasible.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Are you aware of the limitations the planet-search currently labors under? They mostly find large or massive worlds due to their search methods, limited by our current technology. The astronomers admit that finding worlds about the size and mass of Earth is almost impossible right now...but within a few years it may be much more feasible.
    Of course, that's why I speculated that we've looked at possibly 5 million light years worth because the various telescopes have different objectives; some are constantly changing fields of view and some are focused on one spot but more deeply.

    I know it will take a virtual eternity to map and measure the entire observable universe.

    Again, my point to the original post was always: even if life were one single light year away, the distance is too great for us to travel to anytime soon, so we better take care of what we have here.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Again, my point to the original post was always: even if life were one single light year away, the distance is too great for us to travel to anytime soon, so we better take care of what we have here.
    That depends. There are scientific hypothesis already on potential methods for travelling in a quasi-"FTL" manner. (see Alcubierre Warp Drive). All it would take would be one genius on the order of Einstein to come up with something new, and a good engineer to turn it into hardware. Might not happen for centuries, but it could happen next week.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Sorry I thought I was dealing with a more rational and somewhat educated person.

    The Spitzer Space Telescope has been measuring temperatures, atmospheres and orbits of planets light-years from Earth since 1993:
    Spitzer Space Telescope

    and To some extent so does the Kepler, Chandra X-ray telescope, Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory , and of course the Hubble telescope.

    For those that want more information in science's search for life and habitable planets:

    PlanetQuest: Exoplanet Exploration

    Exoplanet Exploration Program

    You are aware that GRO splashed nine years ago, aren't you?

    AXAF isn't all that accurate for planet finding work.

    What hasn't been launched, thanks to the Columbia oops, is SIM, since it was designed for a shuttle launch as a simply supported beam in the shuttle's low-thrust cargo bay and it's proven damned difficult to convert the structure to the cantilever-style high gee-launch environment of your typical flaming telephone pole. Not sure when or if SIM is ever going to launch, or even if the project is still being funded.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    the interesting evidence to note is that just looking around with your own eyes you can see that the solar system has never been visited by aliens; not in the last quarter-billion years or so.

    It's not like the possibility of an alien invasion is remotely likely now.

    How can I say that?

    I can put gasoline in my car.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    There are no aliens, at least none that we know of.

    There may be life on other planets, but for the 5 million or so light years that we can see in every direction, there are none.
    1) The Milky Way Galaxy, a perfectly typical barred spiral galaxy, has a disc radius of approximately 50,000 light years, and thickness of less than ten thousand.

    2) Within "5 million light years" are hundreds of galaxies, in none of which can we discern anything as small and dim as a planet.

    3) Within the short radius of our own galaxy we can reach, we've found a few hundred solid bodies orbiting stars. Because the nature of the search, ie, seeking the periodic displacement of stars, either astrometrically or spectrally, is weighted towards planets with large masses relative to their star, the majority of extra-solar bodies found are similar to Jupiter, but usually bigger, and usually orbiting very close to their primary, a fact that's giving the planetary formation scientists fun nights and parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    If for some reason they were able to use worm holes or dimension-skip to get here, there'd be no reason for them to hide their presence, as it's not like we have anything close to the technology to follow then back.
    Science fantasy.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Some astrophysicist speculate that because of the enormous size of the universe and the almost infinite possibilities of types of life forms out there that it is likely that some species are expanding like a bubble consuming and utilizing every available resource that is increasingly within their reach. They only have the proliferation of their own species in mind.
    Great idea.

    We should get moving to make sure our bubble is the biggest.

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    Re: Will aliens be friendly or hostile?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    The same math is also saying the universe has literally millions of advance civilizations.
    And a trillion galaxies, which means the chance of any one galaxy having two technological civilizations is on the order of trillion divided by a million, which, since we're all used to dealing with trillions in the Messiah Nataion, is roughly a million to one.

    All the evidence of past visitation of aliens to the Earth suggests that this galaxy has only one technological civilization at this time.

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