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    Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Pursuant to my conversation with Tucker...

    In order to stop criminals from illegally buying guns in a manner that does NOT infringe on the rights of the law abiding, I argue that, upon conviction, the state should tattoo a large red F on their foreheads.

    In alternate, I would have a similar F placed onto their driver's license, as part of the background behind the personal information, in a manner plainly visible to anyone looking at it.

    Other letters may be used to denote other legal handicaps, as necessary.

    This would prevent criminals from getting guns (from gun dealers, anyway)
    This would not infringe on the rights of the law abiding.

    Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?
    If not, why not?

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Crooks would find a way arounf the F on the DL. They could forge the DL and IMHO forge a database.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Crooks would find a way arounf the F on the DL. They could forge the DL and IMHO forge a database.
    So...?
    You do NOT support the idea?

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So...?
    You do NOT support the idea?
    No I do not. I have no problem with a waiting period so multiple checks can be made.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    No I do not. I have no problem with a waiting period so multiple checks can be made.
    And you oppose it... because criminals can get around it?
    Correct?

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And you oppose it... because criminals can get around it?
    Correct?
    I oppose it because I see it as a more flawed system than say a waiting period. BTW I do not think any system is perfect.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I oppose it because I see it as a more flawed system than say a waiting period..
    How so?
    And how is the infringement of the rights of the law abiding, created by the prior restraint created by the waiting period/background check, not a larger flaw?

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    What, like the Scarlet Letter? Hardly. First off, we've done away with public ridicule as a form of punishment. Second, it's easily defeated. Third, WTF is the point? One convicted of felony is in a computer base and if they want to buy anything requiring one to not be a felon, I can't see how hard it would be to look it up. In fact, that's as far as I'm willing to go in terms of gun control. I don't even really like it that much, but if it's immediate and is the only thing to be checked, then it's not terrible.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What, like the Scarlet Letter? Hardly. First off, we've done away with public ridicule as a form of punishment.
    I wasnt really serious about that, which is why I offered the idea of the letter on the DL
    And, in any event, is it all that different from requiring someone to register as a sex offender or issuing someone convicted of a DUI a distinctive license plate?

    Second, it's easily defeated.
    As is most gun control.

    Third, WTF is the point?
    I thought that was clear:
    -This would prevent criminals from getting guns (from gun dealers, anyway)
    -This would not infringe on the rights of the law abiding.
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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    -This would prevent criminals from getting guns (from gun dealers, anyway)
    But as we agreed that this was easily defeated, then the above statement becomes false. If easily defeated, it won't prevent criminals from getting guns.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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