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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Giving three days to check records is not a violation of your rights.
    What if the police were able to get a warrant 72 hours after they tapped your telephone, or searched your house?

    What if the state was able to force you to asnwer their questions for 72 hours before they allowed you to NOT answer their questions under the 5th amendment?

    What about the much-discussed prior-restraint parallel created by the check itself?

    You certainly beleive that these things are also not a violation of your rights -- right?

    Unless you think felons with criminal records have a right to buy guns.
    Until 1968 -- they did.

    Do you agree or disagree that it is Constitutional for felons being bared from purchasing fire arms?
    That's not the item up for discussion.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What if the police were able to get a warrant 72 hours after they tapped your telephone, or searched your house?

    What if the state was able to force you to asnwer their questions for 72 hours before they allowed you to NOT answer their questions under the 5th amendment?

    What about the much-discussed prior-restraint parallel created by the check itself?

    You certainly beleive that these things are also not a violation of your rights -- right?


    Until 1968 -- they did.


    That's not the item up for discussion.
    Okay nevermind.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay nevermind.
    So...
    Why is it OK to deny certain rights for 72 hours, but not others?

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    I believe we should make a "666" program. It will be a government sponsored secure database of individuals. People would have a card/ or something you tattoo/ surgically implant something to your right hand or forehead that can not be copied. It will be like an infallible ID system where people can not buy/sell things without getting an OK from the system.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't see 72 hours as a violation of rights. You can still get your gun.
    Perhaps you should wait 72 hours before uttering any comment about politics.

    waiting periods have no usefulness and thus on that ground alone have no business being part of our laws.
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Perhaps you should wait 72 hours before uttering any comment about politics.
    Gag order - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A gag order (or suppression order) is an order, sometimes a legal order by a court or government, other times a private order by an employer or other institution, restricting information or comment from being made public.

    Gag orders are often used against participants involved in a lawsuit or criminal trial. They are also a tool to prevent media from publishing unwanted information on a particular topic. A National Security Letter, which is an administrative subpoena used by the FBI, has an attached gag order, restricting the recipient from ever saying anything about that they were served with one.

    A Criminal Court, for instance, will issue a gag order on the media if the judge believes that potential jurors in a future trial will be influenced by the media reporting or speculation on the early stages of a case. Another example might be to ensure police are not impeded in their investigations by media publicity about a case.

    A gag law is intended to limit freedom of the press, as by instituting censorship or restricting access to information. In the United States, a court can only order parties to a case not to comment on it; a court has no authority to stop unrelated reporters from reporting on a case. Most statutes which restrict what may be reported have generally been found unconstitutional and void. However, the gag provisions of the WIPO Copyright and Performances and Phonograms Treaties Implementation Act have been upheld.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    waiting periods have no usefulness and thus on that ground alone have no business being part of our laws.
    So a waiting period to determine whether those trying to purchase what they legally can not is not useful? Explain why.
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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    The gag order, by the way, isn't universal. It's very limited to an individual or a small group. It oft accompanies some form of criminal trial or sensitive information. Waiting periods on guns are universal. So instead of taking it on an individual basis, it would be as if the gag order was permanently attached to us all; which would certainly be an infringement upon the 1st amendment.
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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    I'm in agreement with the F on the license. It can be removed after a certain time showing that there is no recidivism for violent felons. (5 years perhaps) and we can make it a PART of their sentence that must also be served.

    Sure, they can get around it, but being caught with a fake ID for that purpose can be considered a violation of sentence and they can be treated as such.

    If someone who is supposed to have the "F" is found with a fake that doesn't have it, this should be a felony in it's own right.
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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    So a waiting period to determine whether those trying to purchase what they legally can not is not useful? Explain why.
    A waiting period of less than a month does not result in a more accurate BG check than the one that is done instantly.
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Would you support this as 'common sense' gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    . . . First off, we've done away with public ridicule as a form of punishment. . .
    This, I believe, is one of the fundamental reasons for out intractable crime rates.

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