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Thread: Is this a crime?

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    This is the knee jerk reaction that leads me to believe combatants should be held to the same standards as the rest of us.
    A hopelessly stupid idea.

    The second anyone even hints that a soldier could act inappropriately in combat, their peers rush to their defense.
    No one has suggested this -- thus, you're arguing a strawman.

    You say I'm positioning myself at a moral high ground but really I'm just analyzing the situation from the rest of the world's position.
    Another example of you presupposing facts that you have not shown to be anything other than your ignorant opinion -- No one in the rest of the world believes that soldiers in coimbat should be held to the same standards as civilians in the civilan world.

    You also couldn't resist that last line of BS. "That marine who killed 49 civilians and 1 insurgent was ensuring my right to speak!"
    Never mind that it is true.

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    One word : Circumstance.

    Soldiers can still be charged with reckless endangerment during combat.
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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Never mind that it is true.
    How is this true? Looks like another ignorant opinion with no factual support given by the Goobieman.

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    How is this true? Looks like another ignorant opinion with no factual support given by the Goobieman.
    LOL

    You ignore the entiretly of my post (the part that tears your argument apart) and respond with this?

    Pathetic.

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    LOL

    You ignore the entiretly of my post (the part that tears your argument apart) and respond with this?

    Pathetic.
    Let me set you straight, I dismissed it as your typical rabble. Since you seem to think you've "torn my argument apart" I'll spell it out for you.

    A hopelessly stupid idea.
    Yeah, this isn't a pathetic response...

    No one has suggested this -- thus, you're arguing a strawman.
    So tell me otherwise. You would never admit that a soldier could act inappropriately. Instead you continuously feed me the weenie line "you are not competent to judge them".

    Another example of you presupposing facts that you have not shown to be anything other than your ignorant opinion -- No one in the rest of the world believes that soldiers in coimbat should be held to the same standards as civilians in the civilan world.
    Ahh, your other favorite line. "Presupposing facts that you have not shown to be anything other than your ignorant opinion". Are you sure you're not a bot Goobieman? I think 20% of your posts have this line.

    So you see there was really nothing to respond to from your post!

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Let me set you straight, I dismissed it as your typical rabble.
    Translation:
    You really don't understand why you're wrong, and you're incapable of the intellectuall honesty necessary to even consider as much.

    Yeah, this isn't a pathetic response...
    Consider the statement it referenced.

    So tell me otherwise. You would never admit that a soldier could act inappropriately. Instead you continuously feed me the weenie line "you are not competent to judge them".
    Its not MY job to disprove your statements, its YOUR job to support them.

    YOU stated that:
    "The second anyone even hints that a soldier could act inappropriately in combat, their peers rush to their defense."
    Support this statement, or admit that you are indeed arguing a strawman.

    That said, nothing I have posted has ever implied that I do not believe it is possible for a soldier to act inappropriately. I defy you to show otherwise.

    Ahh, your other favorite line. "Presupposing facts that you have not shown to be anything other than your ignorant opinion".
    Thats -exactly- what you've done.
    Disagree?
    Show that "the rest of thr world" holds the position that soldiers in combat should be held to the same standasrds a civilians in civilain life.

    Now, lets see just how inane you can be in your next post...

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    why? he's still responsible!

    when you kill someone while driving your car, it's not a "crime" but you still have killed someone and depending on the circumstances you could spend several years in jail

    => if he could not have seen the civilians, or if it was very unlikely to hit them, or if he was under enemy fire and was trying to protect himself and has not seen them, then OK he should not be sued

    but if it was obvious that there were civilians around the armed guy, he should not have opened fire
    There is "opening fire" and "returning fire". If you are being shot at by insurgents, you should return fire. If civilians in the area get killed, the crime was committed by the insurgents....
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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    YOU stated that:
    "The second anyone even hints that a soldier could act inappropriately in combat, their peers rush to their defense."
    Support this statement, or admit that you are indeed arguing a strawman.

    That said, nothing I have posted has ever implied that I do not believe it is possible for a soldier to act inappropriately. I defy you to show otherwise.
    Ahh I was waiting for this one. The old, "I haven't made even one assertion so I can't possibly be wrong." Seriously Goobieman, if you can't even make one concrete statement what is your purpose here? My obligation to explain everything to you will arise as soon as you voice your contending opinion. Until then, carry on.

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Ahh I was waiting for this one. The old, "I haven't made even one assertion so I can't possibly be wrong."


    Further proof that you know you're arguing a strawman, and that you were caught doing so.

    Run along, son, and leave the adults to debate among themselves.

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    Re: Is this a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post


    Further proof that you know you're arguing a strawman, and that you were caught doing so.

    Run along, son, and leave the adults to debate among themselves.

    And the final poke, the maturity insult. Terribly ironic and always good for a laugh.

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