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    Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Just a poll.. About brainwashing and propaganda directed at the people of the US by their government and media.

    But the again, if you were brainwashed you probably wouldn't know it.


    PS. choose the party who's politics you are closest to if independent or belong to another party.
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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Have you ever said anything positive about the USA? I mean, ever? You seem to have made it your life's work to put this country and it's people under a microscope to criticize every facet of our existence.

    I'll answer a poll when it addresses something like "Is there a problem with government and media brainwashing around the world"? As worded it implies that there certainly is no problem with government and media brainwashing in Europe, UK, Australia, hell anywhere but the US. And that, of course, is utter hogwash.

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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Have you ever said anything positive about the USA? I mean, ever? You seem to have made it your life's work to put this country and it's people under a microscope to criticize every facet of our existence.

    I'll answer a poll when it addresses something like "Is there a problem with government and media brainwashing around the world"? As worded it implies that there certainly is no problem with government and media brainwashing in Europe, UK, Australia, hell anywhere but the US. And that, of course, is utter hogwash.
    I am asking this question as a result of what I have seen on this forum, not what I saw when I was in the US, (which was a long time ago).

    I definetely concur that there are the same problems around the world, but by far most severe in the US.


    You for example dont seem to be brainwashed.
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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Just a poll.. About brainwashing and propaganda directed at the people of the US by their government and media.

    But the again, if you were brainwashed you probably wouldn't know it.

    Your poll is inappropriate because the responses force people to choose a party whether or not they are a member.

    Is this an oversite or just shameful behavior?

    The answer to your question is "NO". We are allowed to think for ourselves here. Our opinions are our own.

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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Your poll is inappropriate because the responses force people to choose a party whether or not they are a member.

    Is this an oversite or just shameful behavior?

    The answer to your question is "NO". We are allowed to think for ourselves here. Our opinions are our own.
    Ahh, I anwered democrat even tho I am not.. Choose the party you are closest to.

    I wrote the party there because I think a much larger part of Democrats will concur than Republicans.
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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    You can't just split an entire country between democrats and republicans. It doesn't work that way. I'm neither. I'm an Independent, along with about 1/3 of the entire electorate. So I couldn't vote in this poll even if I wanted... which I don't, given the wording... because my opinion is apparently unimportant anyway!

    And how, pray tell, can someone who doesn't even LIVE in the USA responsibly cast judgment on the entire breadth of the millions of media outlets here?

    When do I get to vote on Europe. After all, I don't read all the European media publications and I don't live there; therefore, I'm the perfect candidate to decide whether or not the people are brainwashed.
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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Ahh, I anwered democrat even tho I am not.. Choose the party you are closest to.

    I wrote the party there because I think a much larger part of Democrats will concur than Republicans.
    Oh.

    Fair enough.

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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Yes I think there is undoubtedly a problem with brainwashing in the US although I do not think it is limited to the USA at all.

    Although I do not think the term ´brainwashing´is a particularly helpful one, prehaps ´conspiracy of silence´ in certain issues in the press, it is a bgger problem in the UK and USA because people belive and are told that we have the freest press in the world, this may be the case but it does not mean that they dont have an agenda, they are (of course) in most cases privately owned organizations. If there is indeed a revolving door between politics and business (which I believe there is) how can privately owned media institutions be expected to ´dish the dirt´ on politicians who will be employing their CEOs next quater, or who 51% of their shareholders paied to get into office.

    Mainstream press stories are increasingly constructed and ´spun´ to increase viewing figures and divert attention from unhelpful news stories especially financial ones, which are increasingly treated as the preserve of business men, things which the layperson would not understand or be intrested in.

    the USA and the UK also have not only the highest adversising saturation in any society but also the most sophistocated methods. A state run media system is a crude tool, often blatant and untrustworthy. Corporate advertising saturation has however reached almost covert methods affecting every sphere of our lives. This would not be such an issue if the messages represented a plethora of views and diverse opinions but it inceasingly does not, the messages are the same, buy, consume, want, conform.

    Recent yeas have seen a blurring of the line between politics and entertainment, most notably in the rise of celebrity based shows which have entertainers, ex politicians, businessmen (and women), and moral leaders clubbed togther.

    In my opinion the oft cited quote runs true today, ´none are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free´.

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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    I don't believe that we have a problem so much with propaganda, as with piss-poor education that does not prepare children and young adults to critically examine that propaganda and their own belief systems.

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    Re: Is there a problem with propaganda and brainwashing in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    You can't just split an entire country between democrats and republicans. It doesn't work that way. I'm neither. I'm an Independent, along with about 1/3 of the entire electorate. So I couldn't vote in this poll even if I wanted... which I don't, given the wording... because my opinion is apparently unimportant anyway!

    And how, pray tell, can someone who doesn't even LIVE in the USA responsibly cast judgment on the entire breadth of the millions of media outlets here?

    When do I get to vote on Europe. After all, I don't read all the European media publications and I don't live there; therefore, I'm the perfect candidate to decide whether or not the people are brainwashed.
    Yes I can.. You certainly do that in your elections. Most independents vote for either the republicans or the democrats.

    You should try to follow European media and Europe in general, maybe then you will see how ill the things that are going on in the US really are. I mean, if you see things from more than just the American perspective.. Personally I follow media from around the world.
    I am not uttering my opinion on ALL us media, but the mainstream media I have seen, some of which is quite unreal in nature.
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