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    Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Alright so I'm reading this book on the universe. Apparently it's huge. Millions of planets, stars and hundreds of galaxies and celestial bodies and in between them nothing but light years of nothing. It's got me thinking. If God created all of this why did he create it? Why would he create such a big playground knowing we'd be using less then 1% of it. I'm sure there must be at least ONE other habitable planet in this universe but the chances of finding it are small. At least from what I've read. So I've been wondering. Why did God create such a large 'environment' for us to live in knowing we'd likely never see most of it? I've traveled around the world and I've seen many places and I know why humans create buildings, roads, agricultural fields, hospitals and everything else they build. It's because they're going to use it and they want their children to use it. But we're not really 'using the universe'. We're using 'one' planet in that universe leaving the rest of it virgin and unexplored. So what was the point in creating such a large place for a creation that would never use it? I don't want any bible references just your honest ideas.
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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Why do we do the things we do? Go to the Louvre, and explain in rational terms why that collection exists.

    Why do people make crop circles? What is the purpose of music?

    I would assume that there is joy in creation fro the Devine as well as for Man.

    Besides, we have only recently discovered the we can not only not account for, but not even describe the majority of mass and energy in the known cosmos.

    It may well be that the whole structure exists for a mundane purpose, a machine of some sort for instance. We would be as unlikely to grasp what it's for or why it exists as my cat would be to understand the purpose of a carburetor.

    As a side note, it is also possible that the Universe is not in fact very big at all, but that we are terribly, terribly small.
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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Why do we do the things we do? Go to the Louvre, and explain in rational terms why that collection exists.
    Historical value, evolution in art concepts etc etc.
    Why do people make crop circles?
    15 minutes of fame.
    What is the purpose of music?
    Promoting culture, values and of course fame.

    I would assume that there is joy in creation fro the Devine as well as for Man.

    Besides, we have only recently discovered the we can not only not account for, but not even describe the majority of mass and energy in the known cosmos.

    It may well be that the whole structure exists for a mundane purpose, a machine of some sort for instance. We would be as unlikely to grasp what it's for or why it exists as my cat would be to understand the purpose of a carburetor.
    Finally and I thank you for this explanation but it still relies on the 'grand design' idea that provides no real answer only a rough concept.

    As a side note, it is also possible that the Universe is not in fact very big at all, but that we are terribly, terribly small.
    Uh no the universe is actually pretty big.
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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Uh no the universe is actually pretty big.
    ROFLOL!

    How can we know, we can only measure it against our selves and our limitations!

    To a bacterium, even if there were a pretty bright one, my house is colossal.


    So many of our concepts rely on ourselves for context.
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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Finally and I thank you for this explanation but it still relies on the 'grand design' idea that provides no real answer only a rough concept.
    Well, there isn't an answer. If we knew that we'd know the mind of "God". The universe simply is...the why is respective to the individual asking it. It's an interesting metaphysical inquiry but there isn't a "real answer", as you put it.

    If I were to speculate (because that's all I can do) I would say that the emptiness and vastness of space is simply a necessary part of a more comprehensive model. Its existence is merely a side-effect of conceptual necessity.

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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Aren't we really looking back in time as we gaze out into the universe? I wonder if "time/space" isn't actually more simply "time" and the "space" part isn't really there...I haven't really worked that idea out yet, but...it's the start of a thought on it.

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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Historical value, evolution in art concepts etc etc.
    By the way, this is no answer at all really. Why do we value history that does not teach useful lessons? (At is full of such.)

    "Evolution in art concepts," answers more of a "what" than a "why," and "etcetera, etcetera" is pretty much Latin for "darned if I know"

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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Aren't we really looking back in time as we gaze out into the universe? I wonder if "time/space" isn't actually more simply "time" and the "space" part isn't really there...I haven't really worked that idea out yet, but...it's the start of a thought on it.
    Interesting thought. I feel the OP question is a bit flawed in that "empty" space wasn't "created" but merely arose as a consequence of cosmic expansion. It's like placing your palms against one another and drawing them apart, the space in between them wasn't really created so much as it was revealed. As for "space" not really being there it's a mischaracterization, I feel. It's more accurate to view space as a field or plane which warps and bends and interacts with matter and energy.

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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Interesting thought. I feel the OP question is a bit flawed in that "empty" space wasn't "created" but merely arose as a consequence of cosmic expansion. It's like placing your palms against one another and drawing them apart, the space in between them wasn't really created so much as it was revealed. As for "space" not really being there it's a mischaracterization, I feel. It's more accurate to view space as a field or plane which warps and bends and interacts with matter and energy.
    I think he meant the billions of billions of galaxies made of billions of stars, rather than the empty space in between

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    Re: Why did God create the rest of the universe?

    I think he meant the billions of billions of galaxies made of billions of stars, rather than the empty space in between.
    Ah, I see. I was concentrating on his reference to the light years in between the galaxies and planets, however, I feel the answer I provided can accurately adress this as well. The presence of these planets and galaxies, it would seem, are merely a side-effect of conceptual necessity; that or "God" is simply trying to smatter his canvas with as much paint as possible.

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