Polygamy: Why not?

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

Taylor said:
I'd go to the trouble to teach you a little about probability, but am not sure it would be worth my time. If you're the intellectually curious sort, I invite you to read up.

5 kids can come from one vagina as easily as 1 kid can come from 5 different ones.

Your turn. Learn me somethin', hoss.

rathi · Nov 11, 2009

I don't really approve of polygamy in the way in is currently practiced, but the practice itself doesn't bother me in theory. If the legal hurdles could be worked out, I wouldn't have a problem with the legalization of such relationships.

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

rathi said:
I don't really approve of polygamy in the way in is currently practiced, but the practice itself doesn't bother me in theory. If the legal hurdles could be worked out, I wouldn't have a problem with the legalization of such relationships.

Now THAT'S thinking with your SMART penis! I agree.

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

I dont think Polygamy is right from a moral perspective, and the legalities behind multiple marriages is just too complicated. Its immorality is what is damaging to society. And before you reply to this, yes it is the duty of the government to keep moral order. :roll:

How about the Americans spend a bit more time enhancing the rights of the gay minority and their inability to marry rather than moan about how unfair it is straight people cant have multiple marriages. Geez, so selfish.

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

kaya'08 said:
I dont think Polygamy is right from a moral perspective, and the legalities behind multiple marriages is just too complicated. Its immorality is what is damaging to society. And before you reply to this, yes it is the duty of the government to keep moral order. :roll:

How about the Americans spend a bit more time enhancing the rights of the gay minority and their inability to marry rather than moan about how unfair it is straight people cant have multiple marriages. Geez, so selfish.

Once again, what's the divorce rate in this great nation, and yours...And how does that tie in with morality?

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
Once again, what's the divorce rate in this great nation, and yours.. And how does that tie in with morality?

What the hell difference does it make what the divorce rate is? Is it affecting the wellbeing of indivisual citizens, it is depriving people of food, is it worsening the economic conditions of Africa? No, its just a figure.

A man should dedicate his life to the relationship and wellbeing of his loved one. Multiple relationships and love affairs for men whilst allowing the woman to sit on the corner is sexist and unequal. And if the woman is allowed to do it, well, here comes the jelously and the endless squabbles of testosterone fuelled American dudes and the endless legal complications behind it.

Taylor · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
We are not monogamous creatures

Many of us are, especially once committed.

EpicDude86 said:
and clearly monogamy is doing it's own jub damaging society.

First you said divorce was damaging to society, now you say monogamy is damaging to society (but don't say how). You forgot terrorism. Terrorism is damaging to society, too! I still can't see why you believe any of this is relevant to polygamy.

Taylor · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
5 kids can come from one vagina as easily as 1 kid can come from 5 different ones.

Your turn. Learn me somethin', hoss.

I'd go to the trouble to teach you a little about probability, but am not sure it would be worth my time. If you're the intellectually curious sort, I invite you to read up.

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

kaya'08 said:
What the hell difference does it make what the divorce rate is?

Well just compare the percentage of polygamist relationships that go awry and the number of monogamous relationships that go ass up. Just giving you another point to view this from. Don't get uppity with me, Euro.

kaya'08 said:
Is it affecting the wellbeing of indivisual citizens

Actually yeah. Some people never quite recover from broken families.

kaya'08 said:
it is depriving people of food

Some monogamous families and more divorced families make broken homes, and **** can go downhill very fast.

kaya'08 said:
is it worsening the economic conditions of Africa? No, its just a figure.

Bringing Africa into the equation? Well don't ask. Africa is your problem, Europe.

kaya'08 said:
A man should dedicate his life to the relationship and wellbeing of his loved one.

So we can only love one person? or just one at a time? I find that hard to believe.

kaya'08 said:
Multiple relationships and love affairs for men whilst allowing the woman to sit on the corner is sexist and unequal.

Chicks do it to. Or are we only debating the arguments that can be labeled misogyny here?

kaya'08 said:
And if the woman is allowed to do it,

Technically, Women can, and they do.

kaya'08 said:
well, here comes the jelously and the endless squabbles of testosterone fuelled American dudes and the endless legal complications behind it.

Nice sweeping generalizations of American dudes. It's not dudes that throw **** out on the street when their girl cheats on them, or burns their ****, or keys their car. Most of the time we repay them in kind...and bang their sister.

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

Taylor said:
I'd go to the trouble to teach you a little about probability, but am not sure it would be worth my time. If you're the intellectually curious sort, I invite you to read up.

I agree - somebody lacks probability skills.

Question of the day:

Is the probability of divorce higher in men in multiple relationships or single relationships?

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

Taylor said:
Many of us are, especially once committed.

Well good for them, many of us aren't.

Taylor said:
First you said divorce was damaging to society, now you say monogamy is damaging to society (but don't say how). You forgot terrorism. Terrorism is damaging to society, too! I still can't see why you believe any of this is relevant to polygamy.

You're just proving my point which is There are a lot of things damaging to society, what makes polygamy any worse or better than any of them.

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

P.S. I'm not a polygamist, nor do I necessarily condone it. I'm just taking the side of the argument that seems to be lacking players atm

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
Well just compare the percentage of polygamist relationships that go awry and the number of monogamous relationships that go ass up. Just giving you another point to view this from. Don't get uppity with me, Euro.

What difference does it make what the damn divorce rate is?

Actually yeah. Some people never quite recover from broken families.

Yeah cause it would have a great impact on a child who has a father with other multiple wives and children.

Some monogamous families and more divorced families make broken homes, and **** can go downhill very fast.

What? Oh yes, because a man is so much more DEDICATED to his indivisual relationships in multiple marriages.

Bringing Africa into the equation? Well don't ask. Africa is your problem, Europe.

Apparently not when we stopped importing that GM **** you guys tried to force down our throats. :2wave:

So we can only love one person? or just one at a time? I find that hard to believe.

Nice sweeping generalizations of American dudes. It's not dudes that throw **** out on the street when their girl cheats on them, or burns their ****, or keys their car. Most of the time we repay them in kind...and bang their sister.

Just because you lack the natural emotions of jelously for your loved ones doesnt make it a generalization, infact your type is in the minority.
Relationships are bound to trust and faithfullness, something which is lacking in polygamy.

Lol, hypocrit much? (see bold)

Chicks do it to. Or are we only debating the arguments that can be labeled misogyny here?

Do what, cheat? No say.

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
Well good for them, many of us aren't.

The same people who divorce and shouldnt be married in the first place. Jump from gf to gf, whats so important about marriage papers if you disregard relationships so much?

Taylor · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
You're just proving my point which is There are a lot of things damaging to society, what makes polygamy any worse or better than any of them.

Are you arguing that we should legalize everything that is damaging to society because there are lots of things that are damaging to society? I'm really having difficulty following your train of thought.

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
P.S. I'm not a polygamist, nor do I necessarily condone it. I'm just taking the side of the argument that seems to be lacking players atm

Yet you result to ad hom and your pathetic snarky comments when debating with me.

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

Taylor said:
Are you arguing that we should legalize everything that is damaging to society because there are lots of things that are damaging to society? I'm really having difficulty following your train of thought.

There is none thats the point.

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

Taylor said:
Are you arguing that we should legalize everything that is damaging to society because there are lots of things that are damaging to society? I'm really having difficulty following your train of thought.

are you suggest we criminalize everything that is damaging to society? One famous failure of this idea was American Prohibition. And look what it got us: Organized Crime.

Phoenix · Nov 11, 2009

I am fine with polygamy as long as the government stops granting privileges based on marital status.

molten_dragon · Nov 11, 2009

I really couldn't care less about polygamy one way or the other, whether it's legal or not. I don't think it has any meaningful effect on me or society in general. If a guy (or girl) wants to have multiple spouses, and the spouses are okay with it, then it's fine by me.

Taylor · Nov 11, 2009

EpicDude86 said:
are you suggest we criminalize everything that is damaging to society?

No, I stated in my first post that polygamy should be legal but not recognized by the state.

kaya'08 · Nov 11, 2009

Taylor said:
No, I stated in my first post that polygamy should be legal but not recognized by the state.

Then they wouldnt be able to get married under civil unions or in Church since Polygamy is a sin....unless they convert to Islam, a lack of state recognition is pointless and may aswell be illegal for stated reasons.

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

kaya'08 said:
What difference does it make what the damn divorce rate is?

Because marriage, no matter to who or how many, can still fail and be just as detrimental.

kaya'08 said:
Yeah cause it would have a great impact on a child who has a father with other multiple wives and children.

and having step-mothers, step-fathers, and ex-step-parents isn't detrimental? All of these things can have negative effects, what does it matter if there is a functional family? The Nuclear family model doesn't always work.

kaya'08 said:
What? Oh yes, because a man is so much more DEDICATED to his indivisual relationships in multiple marriages.

And he's any more likely to be more dedicated when he's stuck with one person? Once again, divorce rate and the amount of relationship breakups says otherwise.

kaya'08 said:
Apparently not when we stopped importing that GM **** you guys tried to force down our throats. :2wave:[/qupte]

My point is, we're not the one who drew colonial lines perpendicular to tribal nations, thus causing massive infighting and creating all the distress and poverty in Africa; and regardless, Africa has nothing to do with polygamy.

kaya'08 said:

Just because you lack the natural emotions of jelously for your loved ones doesnt make it a generalization,

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Saying "the endless squabbles of testosterone fuelled American dudes
" isn't a generalization?

kaya'08 said:

infact your type is in the minority. Relationships are bound to trust and faithfullness, something which is lacking in polygamy.

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Just because you love and care for someone doesn't necessarily mean you want to be stuck with them forever. In fact, that's why a lot of marriages DON'T work out. The people spend too much time with each other, and lo and behold, they go and find someone else because they become fed up with that person. While some people can make marriages last with one person, we are NOT monogamous creatures.

kaya'08 said:

Lol, hypocrit much? (see bold)

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lol, hypocrite much? (See bold)

kaya'08 said:

Do what, cheat? No say.

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I'm just saying, you make it seem like this is a man problem. I suppose polygamists could be women too, and have 5 husbands. :lol:

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

Taylor said:
No, I stated in my first post that polygamy should be legal but not recognized by the state.

Fair enough, but that's not the particular post I was responding to. I was using reverse logic to show that things aren't black and white.

EpicDude86 · Nov 11, 2009

kaya'08 said:
There is none thats the point.

Are you capable of seeing other points of view, or do you just come here to make your point known and then nitpick at everyone with a different opinion from yours? I've noticed this attitude in quite a few of your responses...just wondering.

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