Yes we will see them and they are justified.
Yes we will see them but they will not be justified.
No we will not see them but they would have been justified.
No we will not see them and they would not have been justified.
אשכנזי היהודי • Белый Россию
Im not syaing its very likely. But it is possible.
I mean, if the republicans went after clinton for ****ing around, youd think that the clintons might want some pay back right? Just for one example.
Id like to see it happen. But I dont think obama's gona do it.
Ill tell u one thing tho. I want him to WAIT untill theyre ACTUALY out of office. Get them OUT OF POWER properly, and thenf eed them to the wolves.
Thats what id do.
Last edited by Real Talk; 12-21-08 at 03:19 AM.
And I might point out that while laws against felonies are not 100% effective, at least they are enforced as something other than a matter of political expedience-- and sometimes, they are even enforced when it would be inconvenient to do so. This is certainly not the case with "war crimes".
אשכנזי היהודי • Белый Россию
I find your posts to be classic examples of arrogance and conceit. You think you know and I know you don't! You act like you do, but its just an act. You play this little word game of misdirecting the conversation to being about me. But it's not about me, it's about you and your reaction to me. Why do you feel the need to make stuff up? Why can't you just have a conversation? What are you afraid of? Oh, I remember, Islam.
Last edited by Billo_Really; 12-21-08 at 04:30 AM.
This is, to my mind, a very peculiar position indeed. To illustrate, I oppose slavery in all its forms. But I would not equate the practice of slavery in Virginia in 1850, with the practice of slavery in a Ancient Persia. I can opposes both institutions, but I would have certain problems in moral judgment if I held the same opinion of both.
Religions vastly differ from each other, and command different responses from the religious and the irreligious. And unless you are out of touch with objective reality, which hopefully you are not, you must know this.
You can even test your awareness. Which case in each of these pairs would surprise you more:Feel free to keep the results of this little test private, it you don't wish to post the honest results.
- a Catholic Cardinal calling for the eradication of a non-Catholic state, by violence if necessary.
- an Islamic Imam calling for the eradication of a non-Islamic state, by violence if necessary.
- a Jewish youth blowing himself up with an explosive belt in a crowded restaurant of Buddhists because he thinks this will get him into paradise.
- a Muslim youth blowing himself up with an explosive belt in a crowded restaurant of Hindus because he thinks this will get him into paradise.
- A Jehovah's Witness posting a video in which he slowly cuts off the head of a telephone repairman of foreign origin who came into his neighborhood.
- A Muhammadan posting a video in which he slowly cuts of the head off a telephone repairman of foreign origin who came into his neighborhood.
You assessment that people who disagree with you are mentally disturbed is an example of the typical leftist mindset that equates heightened emotion with rational argument.
I do agree that you should not fear me. I am the one trying to present to you a rational, knowledge based position. Reason is not to feared, nor are reasonable people. (In more enlightened times, they are to be emulated.)
I find it very difficult to make a rational response to a position based upon willful blindness. Traditional Islam is a threat to the precepts of Western Civilization. This is a simple fact, whether one has the courage to address the issue, or retreat into comforting denials.
The time may come in your lifetime when you'll have to take a stand and choose a side. It is interesting to wonder what you would do in such a situation.
I'm not actually terribly arrogant, but I am addressing facts, which are perhaps the most arrogant things in Creation. I do appreciate being thought of as a classic, however.
As for me "knowing," well to be frank, this is the state of mind one enters into when one has spent some time and effort learning facts. I advise everyone to try it.
To be perfectly honest, I have grown very tired of modern liberal thought that seem to believe that denial makes truth, emotional assertion makes fact, and a shallow pronouncement of moral relativism evokes a strong character.
Now once again, if you are serious about making relevant and well founded statements on subjects such as these, I direct you first to a study of the Koran and Hadith, and the principles of traditional Islam, and certainly the pronouncements of leading militant Muslim clerics which guide the Islamic faithful.
I would expect thatyou can direct your own studies, but I can provide an elementary reading list on request.
Last edited by Oftencold; 12-21-08 at 05:37 AM. Reason: typos
Now, ignoring this is not the solution, and I'm not quite certain WHAT the solution IS, BUT you'd expect that for a country that calls itself 'civilized' that we'd be above the need for a new 'crusade'
Becoming a monster to kill a monster still leaves you with a monster.