View Poll Results: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

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  • Yes we will see them and they are justified.

    5 7.81%
  • Yes we will see them but they will not be justified.

    4 6.25%
  • No we will not see them but they would have been justified.

    21 32.81%
  • No we will not see them and they would not have been justified.

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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    That is his schtick he thinks he is not a partisan when he is one of the most anti-american, anti-semetic, anti-troop, posters you will ever come across...


    Don't bother.
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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    That is his schtick he thinks he is not a partisan when he is one of the most anti-american, anti-semetic, anti-troop, posters you will ever come across...


    Don't bother.
    He may be zealos. But if you talk bad about certian things about a country for critisisms sake, in an attempt to improve. He obviously has enough patriotism to surpass personal holds on reputation Right or wrong.
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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    He may be zealos. But if you talk bad about certian things about a country for critisisms sake, in an attempt to improve. He obviously has enough patriotism to surpass personal holds on reputation Right or wrong.



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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    When you call troops murderers for political gain you are doing more than critisizing. He ain't a horse you want to back.
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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    If it's too much for ya........get ****in' educated!
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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Billo_Really,

    I did not say that no abuses or war crimes took place. I said only that there is no credible and legally-admissable evidence to try either President Bush or Vice President Cheney for war crimes. Leaders are not automatically responsible for the acts of some members of military forces that might violate the Laws of War. One needs evidence that the leaders ordered such methods with the appropriate intent and knowledge of what they were doing. Barring the discovery of new documents toward that end, I believe it is very unlikely that either the President or Vice President will be prosecuted or charged, much less convicted, of war crimes.

    On a separate note, clearly some of the incidents you cited e.g., events at Haditha, would properly amount to war crimes. Moreover, the individuals responsible have been convicted and/or are being brought to justice in at least some of those cases.

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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by MachuPicchu View Post
    Calls are getting more, not less, obvious in the public spectrum. So the question is, will we see prosecutions of public officials and are they justified?

    To me, it is not a left vs right issue. This isn't just about Bush/Cheney. It is an issue of the highest ethical implications. It is not about revenge, it is about justice. Our public leaders must be held responsible for criminal actions. We must set a precedent that politicians are not above the law, regardless of their motivations.

    It no longer is a fringe position to hold that we need to bring this to court and systematically determine if people committed war crimes. It is now a fringe position to ignore the overwhelming evidence that crimes very likely were committed.


    What war crimes were committed and by whom?

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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Billo_Really,

    I did not say that no abuses or war crimes took place. I said only that there is no credible and legally-admissable evidence to try either President Bush or Vice President Cheney for war crimes. Leaders are not automatically responsible for the acts of some members of military forces that might violate the Laws of War. One needs evidence that the leaders ordered such methods with the appropriate intent and knowledge of what they were doing. Barring the discovery of new documents toward that end, I believe it is very unlikely that either the President or Vice President will be prosecuted or charged, much less convicted, of war crimes.

    On a separate note, clearly some of the incidents you cited e.g., events at Haditha, would properly amount to war crimes. Moreover, the individuals responsible have been convicted and/or are being brought to justice in at least some of those cases.
    I will agree that no charges will be filed, no matter what the evidence is. But that's more of a statement on just how disgusting American's have become.

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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
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    Re: Will we see war crime prosecutions, and are they justified?

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