View Poll Results: What is "common sense" gun control?

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  • Federal registration of guns

    16 47.06%
  • Federal licensing of gun owners

    13 38.24%
  • Instant background checks for dealer transfers

    18 52.94%
  • Instant background checks for private transfers

    15 44.12%
  • 5-day waiting periods for handgun purchases

    10 29.41%
  • 5-day waiting period for all gun purchases

    9 26.47%
  • Ban guns from felons and those adjudicated ‘mentally infirm’

    25 73.53%
  • Ban handguns

    2 5.88%
  • Ban ‘assault weapons’

    4 11.76%
  • Other (specify)

    11 32.35%
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    I voted for banning them from felons and mentally infirm(although I would make the point to restrict it, rather than ban, as not all felonies involve "gun" crime), and instant background checks for dealer transfers. I don't mind if states require a registration or liscence, but its not something I feel the federal government should step into.

    The 5 day waiting period is ludicrous with todays technology on background checks. It can be done instantly at the POS.

    As far as dealer transfers I am unclear as to whether this is a transfer between dealers, or a sale ala retail from dealer to consumer. I treated it as a deal between the retail to the consumer, and voted for an instant background check.

    And as far as private transactions go, I treated this answer as though it were the sale between two private citizens, which I think would be impossible to track or enforce this, so I did not vote for background checks on private sales.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I would say in the case of felonies commited sans firearms, I agree. However for felonies commited with the use of a firearm, part of their punishment should include either a lifetime ban from firearms, or at least an extended ban outside of their incarcerated period. Just because they have served the incarceration period of a sentence, does not mean they should have full rights restored to them, in all cases. Sexual predators being a prime example.
    I don't think it's right for the government to be able to infinitely punish someone for a crime. But that's just my take on the situation. Also, mandatory sexual predator laws should be stricken from the books. Mandatory sentencing is always a bad idea. We have judges for a reason.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think it's right for the government to be able to infinitely punish someone for a crime. But that's just my take on the situation. Also, mandatory sexual predator laws should be stricken from the books. Mandatory sentencing is always a bad idea. We have judges for a reason.
    I agree with you in regards to mandatory sentences. But I think that the judge should have the capability to extend punishment outside of an incarceration period if he deems it necessary, and for as long as he/she would deem appropriate. Case by case basis, if you will.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Things definitely have to be taken care of on an individual basis. I know that both sides get their panties in a bunch over stuff like that depending on the crime. But things have to be individual, there is a range of punishment and the system can choose from that range. However, I also strongly believe there has to be a hard limit as well. Something for which the government may not go beyond when punishing an individual.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    My vote is for "NONE of the above." Since that option was not listed, I voted "Other."


    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    But don't you agree with some restrictions such as background checks and bans for felons? Do you believe in any kind of control or just a free for all market?
    First question--NO. Second question--Free Market.


    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Bans for felons fall outside the "law abiding" requirement.
    Background checks infringe on the rights of the law abiding.

    I fully support any gun control law that means criminals will not have guns and that does not infringe on the rights of the law abiding.
    Let me know when you find one of those.
    You are absolutely right. In addition to the fact that felons will not obey the law and will get guns regardless, even felons have a right to defend themselves.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    How many gun owners have used a gun in any extreme to protect their home and or loved ones? Tell your tale here: Here's mine. I used mine one time when myf ront door was kicked off the hinges by someone who thought someone was going to shoot him. I did not fire but held him at bay until the cops came to sort it out.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    As far as dealer transfers I am unclear as to whether this is a transfer between dealers, or a sale ala retail from dealer to consumer. I treated it as a deal between the retail to the consumer, and voted for an instant background check.
    That is how it was intended.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Background checks infringe on the rights of the law abiding.
    How so? .

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    How so?
    It is a precondition on the exercise of a right that is not inherent to that right.
    As such, it is a form of prior restraint.
    Prior restraint is an infeingement.

    Same for licensing and registration.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 12-17-08 at 02:24 PM.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    I'm against "gun control" as it is normally used, but I don't think absolutes work either. For example, my BF has a few full automatics (all licensed and those license I gather are for a specific firearm to the specific person only - expensive, background checks, long delay and even federal discretion to grant).
    One of those is an old belt feed tripod mounted 50 caliber. The firearms all left in to him in his father's estate. I REALLY wouldn't want it easy for anyone to have one of those.

    What about cannons and bazookas? Could someone fly around in an old WWII airplane with its wing cannons and machines guns as his "right to bear arms"?

    The question seems to be what is "reasonable" in terms of the rights of citizens to "bear arms," but to not have crazy-man or cult mass murder ability either.

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