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  • Federal registration of guns

    16 47.06%
  • Federal licensing of gun owners

    13 38.24%
  • Instant background checks for dealer transfers

    18 52.94%
  • Instant background checks for private transfers

    15 44.12%
  • 5-day waiting periods for handgun purchases

    10 29.41%
  • 5-day waiting period for all gun purchases

    9 26.47%
  • Ban guns from felons and those adjudicated ‘mentally infirm’

    25 73.53%
  • Ban handguns

    2 5.88%
  • Ban ‘assault weapons’

    4 11.76%
  • Other (specify)

    11 32.35%
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Only the instant background check does not violate the second, 9th and tenth amendments.

    Proper gun control is a figure 8 grouping on a double tap at 15Yards in 1/4th of a second
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I'm fine with registering and licensing and waiting. I am, however, opposed to banning ANY gun.
    why should someone wait when it does nothing to promote public safety. Why should I register guns when criminals do not and every group that wants to ban guns and confiscate them say registration is a necessary tool to accomplish such nefarious schemes?
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Your posts are anything but clear. Since you're convinced that registration and licensing "infringes" on the 2nd amendment right, state clearly a scenario where your argument would apply. As I see it, anyone failing to meet these two simple requirements would be a threat to those around them, so show me a case where this is not true and we'll have something constructive to discuss.
    Registration facilitates confiscation or punitive taxation. It is like smoking-it might not always lead to or cause lung cancer but if you don't want lung cancer you should not smoke
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    Why would you not want to register your weapon?
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Obama on guns:

    "I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets"

    "...what we can do is to provide just some common-sense enforcement. "

    "I believe in common-sense gun safety laws"

    "There is an individual right to bear arms, but it is subject to common-sense regulation..."
    et al.

    So...
    What IS "common sense" gun control?
    Please explain how your choices are indeed "common sense".
    I should have picked other
    I would have to say a instant background check could be considered the least unconstitutional as long as the dealer and buyer are not required to pay for the services of those instant background checks.

    As far as I am concerned since the right to keep and bear arms is a right then there should be no registration,permits,waiting periods, bans or any other preconditions on any firearms. We don't require the same thing on other rights. I am sure that if anyone proposed that you had to have a waiting, license or had to register some paper,pencils,to buy a newspaper, watch broad cast tv or anything else that facilitated the verbal or written/typed speech or just to go to church that person would be labeled the anti-American that he or she is. That same anti-American label should slapped on anyone who proposes registrations,licenses or waiting periods for 2nd amendment rights. You don't impair or strip law abiding citizens their rights just so you can "stop" criminals who do not obey the law in the first place.

    Most states do not have waiting periods, firearm registrations or licenses to purchase firearms.

    I think common sense gun control would be to have firearms courses in high schools that teach firearm safety, how to fire a firearm properly, how to switch the safety on and off and maybe a Reflexive Fire/point shooting course.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Registration facilitates confiscation or punitive taxation.
    I agree. Fire arm registrations and gun licenses are used so that later they can confiscate firearms, even in this country. No criminal is going to follow any law they find to be of an inconvenience. So this idea that somehow forcing those who already obey the law to register their firearms and or get licenses for those fire arms is someone how going to affect crime is totally absurd.

    NRA-ILA :: Firearms Registration: New York City`s Lesson
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I agree. Fire arm registrations and gun licenses are used so that later they can confiscate firearms, even in this country. No criminal is going to follow any law they find to be of an inconvenience. So this idea that somehow forcing those who already obey the law to register their firearms and or get licenses for those fire arms is someone how going to affect crime is totally absurd.

    NRA-ILA :: Firearms Registration: New York City`s Lesson
    That's why I would not be in favor of mandatory registration of firearms. I would only be in favor of the GID number that I spoke of earlier.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That's why I would not be in favor of mandatory registration of firearms. I would only be in favor of the GID number that I spoke of earlier.
    There are over 200-240 million plus firearms in this country,do you really think a number that can easily be filed off be used to help a owner recover his firearm if it was ever stolen? Raid every pawn shop and gun dealer that happens to carry that model of firearm and do a ballistics? test The main reasons for those numbers is to help with registrations


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    AMERICANS OWN LARGEST NUMBER OF FIREARMS IN WORLD
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Don't put words in my mouth. I never said intelligence was the issue. I merely try to make as few assumptions as possible, thus my stream of questions at you (which you continue to dodge).
    Get back to me when you're ready to have the discussion that no one else seems to be having any trouble having.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    How is it an infringement? I am not denying your right to bear arms. I am only making sure you have the right.

    No, you undergo the check to make sure you haven't broken the law previously and thus still have the right to own a gun.
    Both of these have been previously addressed.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Get back to me when you're ready to have the discussion that no one else seems to be having any trouble having.
    No need, someone else explained their argument clearly whereas you failed, repeatedly.

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