View Poll Results: What is "common sense" gun control?

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  • Federal registration of guns

    16 47.06%
  • Federal licensing of gun owners

    13 38.24%
  • Instant background checks for dealer transfers

    18 52.94%
  • Instant background checks for private transfers

    15 44.12%
  • 5-day waiting periods for handgun purchases

    10 29.41%
  • 5-day waiting period for all gun purchases

    9 26.47%
  • Ban guns from felons and those adjudicated ‘mentally infirm’

    25 73.53%
  • Ban handguns

    2 5.88%
  • Ban ‘assault weapons’

    4 11.76%
  • Other (specify)

    11 32.35%
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Personally I'd take weapons away from the state except for local police and emergencies.
    sounds good to me.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It creates a precondition that by necessity means that it no longer is a right, but a privilege. You don't need to ask for permission from "daddy" to do something that is an inherent right.

    Licensing is a form of permission asking.
    You do if you told daddy that you and your siblings should be denied the right if you did something bad.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It creates a precondition that by necessity means that it no longer is a right, but a privilege. You don't need to ask for permission from "daddy" to do something that is an inherent right.

    Licensing is a form of permission asking.
    So let me get this right, owning a gun becomes a privileged if you are forced to apply for a license (which only would be denied to those we agreed should be excluded). Daddy always says yes unless you've done something bad.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    So let me get this right, owning a gun becomes a privileged if you are forced to apply for a license (which only would be denied to those we agreed should be excluded). Daddy always says yes unless you've done something bad.
    It's a precondition to a right. That cannot exist.

    As far as checking to see if the person committed a felony before hand, I supported the idea of instant background checks. It's not asking permission, it's preventing a crime from occuring (selling a firearm to a felon).
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It's a precondition to a right. That cannot exist.

    As far as checking to see if the person committed a felony before hand, I supported the idea of instant background checks. It's not asking permission, it's preventing a crime from occuring (selling a firearm to a felon).
    So how is requiring voter registration any different?

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    So how is requiring voter registration any different?
    Voter registration helps prevent manipulation of the election system. It's a way to make sure that voting isn't beign done over and over again by the same people. It's not permission, it's for tallying the votes.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Voter registration helps prevent manipulation of the election system. It's a way to make sure that voting isn't beign done over and over again by the same people. It's not permission, it's for tallying the votes.
    I guess I can see a problem with the idea of licensing, but still not how it would prevent someone from exercising their right. Maybe inconvenience.

    How is registration different then, its not permission, but a system of "tallying the" guns. Its a way to aid in solving gun crimes.

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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    I guess I can see a problem with the idea of licensing, but still not how it would prevent someone from exercising their right. Maybe inconvenience.

    How is registration different then, its not permission, but a system of "tallying the" guns. Its a way to aid in solving gun crimes.
    I think the registration issue is about tracking the legal gun owners. It doesn't necessarily prevent illegal gun owners from getting weopons, so I don't see it's purpose.

    I'd be in favor of every legal gun having a stamped number that is unique and then all of those numbers being entered into a database by the manufacturers and dealers. Then the gun owner has a record of the number and in case of theft, the number can be given by the owner to the police and they would be able to know more about the guns used illegally were obtained (through theft, illegal smuggling etc).

    I think something along these lines would not infringe on rights, but would serve the same purpose as registration of the weapon would.

    This is what I had in mind when I voted for the registration of guns option, but that wasn't what was meant by the option.


    the reason it is an infringment is that it is mandatory and non-registration would be a crime. Thus it is another precondition to ownership.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Let me add, VOLUNTARY registration of guns should be an option along with teh serial number idea I gave. It would be a protection to the gun owners, but it's volutary status would prevent it form being a precondition to possesion.
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    Re: What is "common sense" gun control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I think the registration issue is about tracking the legal gun owners. It doesn't necessarily prevent illegal gun owners from getting weopons, so I don't see it's purpose.

    I'd be in favor of every legal gun having a stamped number that is unique and then all of those numbers being entered into a database by the manufacturers and dealers. Then the gun owner has a record of the number and in case of theft, the number can be given by the owner to the police and they would be able to know more about the guns used illegally were obtained (through theft, illegal smuggling etc).

    I think something along these lines would not infringe on rights, but would serve the same purpose as registration of the weapon would.

    This is what I had in mind when I voted for the registration of guns option, but that wasn't what was meant by the option.


    the reason it is an infringment is that it is mandatory and non-registration would be a crime. Thus it is another precondition to ownership.
    Thanks for clearing this up, I made a similar assumption to the registration option and could not see how entering a gun's unique number into a database would infringe on someone's right.

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