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Thread: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Privacy is one. It's now noted that "normal" or "general" Americans have been spied on via phone tapping. Some think this is no big deal, but I certainly do.
    Stats indicated that about a million have been spied upon internationally, and most of those were people NOT in the USA. Even those in the USA had potential terror ties and very few were "normal".
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    One makes the best of a bad situation, of course; but I'd wager that all of them would rather have their children alive again, at any cost.
    Can't argue with that.
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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Privacy is one. It's now noted that "normal" or "general" Americans have been spied on via phone tapping. Some think this is no big deal, but I certainly do.
    Seriously? I've never heard this.
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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Fresh on the news stands this week:

    The Whistleblower Who Exposed Warrantless Wiretaps | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com

    A synopsis from another website:

    This weekend, Newsweek published the remarkable saga of Thomas M. Tamm, a former prosecutor in the Department of Justice who saw evidence of illegal domestic surveillance of U.S. citizens. When his questions to superiors went unanswered, Tamm decided to blow the whistle -- calling the New York Times from a pay phone. James Risen and Eric Lichtblau eventually won the Pulitzer Prize for their work in uncovering the scandal that touched the highest levels of our government.

    The Risen and Lichtblau investigation sparked another important development: it showed former AT&T employee Mark Klein the context of the work he did in a secret room in San Francisco. Mr. Klein decided the time had come for him to blow the whistle himself. His evidence formed the backbone of our class-action lawsuit against AT&T.

    But this whistleblowing does not come without risk. The Newsweek article includes a harrowing account of an FBI raid on Tamm's home. And he is still worried about facing legal charges for his actions. But without Tamm, America may have never learned about this massive illegal spying by the National Security Agency, and we all owe him our thanks.


    The Whistleblower Who Kick-Started Domestic Spying Revelations | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Stats indicated that about a million have been spied upon internationally, and most of those were people NOT in the USA. Even those in the USA had potential terror ties and very few were "normal".
    I think Joe the Plumber might blow your facts.
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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    ......Why not?
    Because there is no excuse for such behaviour in a civilised county. The state does not beat people in civilised countries, it is cruel and unusual punishment. In Britain we have outlawed torture for about two hundred years.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I think Joe the Plumber might blow your facts.

    I don't. Instead though... why don't you try and blow my facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're full of shit. Thanks for asking.
    You need to save attacks like this for downstairs

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    Re: Does bush deserve to have a shoe thrown at him?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Whatever gave you that idea, vets are not in fear of speaking out in public. There will not be any death threats. As a veteran I can tell you that vets speak out all of the time in public without fear of threats to themselfs or their families.

    Active duty personnel are bound by the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice). Freedom of speech is restricted under this code. However I can assure you that there families or their own lifes will not be threatened should they speak out against the war or the Commander in Chief.
    What gave me that idea? Some of the vets that I am close to have told me their own personal reality. For you to even sit here and claim that you can assure me that no vets will not be threatened lets me know that either you are misunderstanding what I am trying to say or you are out of touch with facts.
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