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Throw in fish and we have a deal. :mrgreen:
hmmm......well....ok
Throw in fish and we have a deal. :mrgreen:
No, that's a "nuclear family", and there's actually nothing traditional about it at all.
That didn't even become a standard family model until the post-WWII era, which wasn't very long ago.
Traditional... Nuclear... they are the same thing.
A Nuclear Family has been the Traditional Family for thousands of years.
I'll accept the story of the link, but one story doesn't make a point. There are examples of a very young sibling raising young children, certainly examples of polygamists successfully raising children etc. Do you support 13 year-old and polygamists adopting if I can point to examples of those doing good foster or adoptive parenting?
Your calling my post "angry, hateful, prejudiced, and paranoid" is exactly a prime example of why I don't want the selection of foster or adoptive parents to put children into the middle of the rabid, screaming gay rights movement. The only message on this thread that appears "angry and hateful" is your response to my message. It was impossible for you to make a disagreeing message without an intense personal attack against me for pointing out the obvious flaws in the story you had posted. While "angry" is arguable, there was nothing hateful, prejudiced or paranoid about my message.
Thousands of years? Try decades. Thousands of years ago, young couples were expected to move into either the husband's parents' house, or the wife's parents', depending on culture. Children were raised not by their parents, but by their extended family.
The "nuclear family" is a product of the Industrial Revolution, in which young men and women moved into cities, away from their relatives, to find work.
How about we narrow it down. Do you approve of the gay couple in the story legally adopting the two boys they are fostering?
At least you agree with me on 'angry.'
I don't know how long the children have been with them. If it is long enough to establish bonding and IF THE STORY IS TRUE, yes - because the decision is about those 2 children and a situation already existing.
Yea im still not really happy with any of these studies i wanted something more like liklihood of children commiting suicide or bullying of children with same sex parents.
...what...nothing on related couples or polygamists? :stooges
Thanks for reminding me. Where do you want it, this thread or the other?
Thousands of years? Try decades. Thousands of years ago, young couples were expected to move into either the husband's parents' house, or the wife's parents', depending on culture. Children were raised not by their parents, but by their extended family.
The "nuclear family" is a product of the Industrial Revolution, in which young men and women moved into cities, away from their relatives, to find work.
Wessexman
The Nuclear family is the remaining core of what was once a usually extensive kinship grouping. Most of that however has been worn down until all that is left is the Nuclear family. In that sense it has long been around, it was just a lot better supported in centuries past and part of a complex kinship grouping.
I know this is late to the debate but I don't care.
Personally I'm torn on the matter. On the one hand if they love each other and are good parents I have no problem with that, just like a straight couple should be to adopt.
But this is my problem, when the kid goes to school. Right now I'm in High School, and I can tell you that any kid who has gay parents will get ripped on horribly. They would constantly get made fun of and they could become a social outcast. Now putting a kid through that isn't good. But then again a kid can get made fun of for many reasons, not just that.
So as of now I'm torn on the issue, i can't say yes or no.
I know this is late to the debate but I don't care.
Personally I'm torn on the matter. On the one hand if they love each other and are good parents I have no problem with that, just like a straight couple should be to adopt.
But this is my problem, when the kid goes to school. Right now I'm in High School, and I can tell you that any kid who has gay parents will get ripped on horribly. They would constantly get made fun of and they could become a social outcast. Now putting a kid through that isn't good. But then again a kid can get made fun of for many reasons, not just that.
So as of now I'm torn on the issue, i can't say yes or no.
I'm curious. Are there any kids in your school that have gay parents and are they made fun of? I have worked with at least half a dozen kids, males and females, who had gay parents (and were open about it) and none of them were ever made fun of. The literature doesn't support that argument either. Just curious if your experience is different.
I always hate when poll questions are the exact opposite of the thread title. Sure I could read, but that takes time.
I believe that statistics support and nobody will be able to show any broad or comprehensive study that will dispute that the traditional family with a competent mom and dad in the home raising the kids is the very best circumstance for children.
But for the reason that I believe, all other factors being even, all kids, whether straight or gay, benefit from having a loving mom and dad in the home--something same-sex couples cannot provide--I would always give a qualified married man and woman first option to adopt.
I checked "yes", gay people should be allowed to adopt on the poll. But I would have preferred an option that gay people (or single people) be allowed to adopt when there is no traditional family for that child.
In other words, gays should get the rejects, the leftovers, the leavings, the dregs, the scum, the bottom of the barrel: the children that no straight couple is willing to accept.
You know, I'm sure they would, at that. And be happy to do so.
Most gays are pretty open-minded and generous people.
Because the state of Florida won't allow it because the foster parents are gay.
Look man. The state of Florida is FAMOUS for having a screwed up family court/child protective services/foster care program.
It affects just about everyone who has to deal with it from what I am told. Gays, straights, whatever. If it comes to making a decision regarding the betterment of a child, you can count on the decision to be a screwed up decision if said decision was made by Florida.
They are just now finding hidden bodies, in mass graves, from a Florida State School for Boys. Those accused attrocities were a couple of decades ago, but it gives you the idea of where Florida is evolving from. In fact, wasn't there another death in the news, in a florida boy's reformatory, caused by abusive authorities, not too long ago?
Florida people are wonderful people. But, why their state's departments concerning children, is soooooooo out of whack, I really can't say. It just is.