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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristina View Post
    There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that children raised by same sex parents turn out worse than those raised by opposite sex parents. I fully support gay adoption, being gay myself. My state recently made it legal for single women and lesbians to have access to IVF treatment, so I am looking foward to becoming a single mother by choice (yeah yeah, berate all you like) with the blessing of the state government.
    I have a very close friend who, as a lesbian years ago, adopted 2 children, one girl and one boy. Her children have gone on to great success and are two very well rounded, mature heterosexual adults. IOW she was a great parent and I personally don't believe that because someone is either hetero or homo precludes parenting skills.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    I have a very close friend who, as a lesbian years ago, adopted 2 children, one girl and one boy. Her children have gone on to great success and are two very well rounded, mature heterosexual adults. IOW she was a great parent and I personally don't believe that because someone is either hetero or homo precludes parenting skills.
    Of course not! I am very happy for your friend and wish her all the best in the future.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    What about finances? Religious affiliation? Urbanites?

    Larger families have huge financial obligations. If a family is as committed to child raising they'd have to be fairly well off to put forth all that time and commitment - sounds awfully similar to eugenics movement slogans.
    I know a number of families with several children and modest incomes who care for their kids quite well. Prioritizing has a lot to do with this. Again, I'd like to see people unwilling to make the commitment remain childless.

    I grew up in a fairly large family of modest means. We found ways to thrive. The motivation to produce fully actualized adults drove my parents to find the means. It's really very simple.

    It is not my place to make public pronouncements abut which religious groups should have children except that people should be aware that procreation can be used as a weapon.

    What about Urbanites?

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristina View Post
    There is no such thing as a 'traditional' family.
    If that is the sort of thing you wish to believe, then I leave it unto you.

    You are also free to believe that there is no such things as nice weather, fine flavor, a pleasant afternoon or beauty, all of which are also terms which only confuse the overly clever.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    If that is the sort of thing you wish to believe, then I leave it unto you.

    You are also free to believe that there is no such things as nice weather, fine flavor, a pleasant afternoon and beauty, all of which are also terms which only confuse the overly clever.
    They are all subjective terms; only the underly clever believe they have some sort of objective or universal application.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    They are all subjective terms; only the underly clever believe they have some sort of objective or universal application.
    I use this post as an illustration of my point, thank you.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I use this post as an illustration of my point, thank you.
    Ah morbidly subjective and atomistic, destructive of anything traditional, settled, wholesome or decent yet paradoxically levelling, extremely univeraslist and egalitarian. The core of modern liberalism.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    I believe homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals, including the right to marry, the right to divorce, the right to adopt along with all legal rights and responsibilities therein.

    With adoption, there is a problem in the way many anti-gay state laws are written that allows gay adoption (for constitutional reasons), but refuse to allow two people of the same sex to be listed on the adoption papers. If the relationship subsequently sours, the only parent with legal rights is the one who won the coin toss when the adoption papers were submitted. That parent can take the child totally out of the life of the other parent, even though that parent might have been the primary care-giver that the child loves dearly.

    Bigotry and prejudice is what's harming these children, not gay adoptions.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I believe homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals, including the right to marry, the right to divorce, the right to adopt along with all legal rights and responsibilities therein.

    With adoption, there is a problem in the way many anti-gay state laws are written that allows gay adoption (for constitutional reasons), but refuse to allow two people of the same sex to be listed on the adoption papers. If the relationship subsequently sours, the only parent with legal rights is the one who won the coin toss when the adoption papers were submitted. That parent can take the child totally out of the life of the other parent, even though that parent might have been the primary care-giver that the child loves dearly.

    Bigotry and prejudice is what's harming these children, not gay adoptions.
    Yea but the problem is these children will be brought into a world that does have bigotry and prejudice.
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