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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I favor a traditional family with a mother and a father and preferably several siblings, for a number of reasons.
    What about finances? Religious affiliation? Urbanites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold
    In truth I'd like to see, in our country anyway, fewer and larger child rearing families. I think we'd be best served by having only the most committed raising children.
    Larger families have huge financial obligations. If a family is as committed to child raising they'd have to be fairly well off to put forth all that time and commitment - sounds awfully similar to eugenics movement slogans.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    That's one way to bottleneck the gene pool, I guess.
    I happen to think there's more strength in diversity.
    Wouldn't larger families create more diversity? There'd be more children to reproduce with more children.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    I dont object to it in a moral way its just the school i went too i would be endlessly bullied and beaten up because of it.Kids are cruel.I dont think its ok to please adults at the sake of children sometimes.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    Larger families have huge financial obligations. If a family is as committed to child raising they'd have to be fairly well off to put forth all that time and commitment - sounds awfully similar to eugenics movement slogans.
    What?

    Larger families mean more financial support later on though because their are more people around.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Wouldn't larger families create more diversity? There'd be more children to reproduce with more children.
    Larger and fewer, was what he said. He did not specify how much larger, how much fewer.
    I believe we'd start having some of the sorts of problems we see in polygamous cultures, or in tight-knit clans which rarely marry outsiders, such as the Ashkenazi Jews and the Hmong.
    These problems would include birth defects and genetic mutations.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Larger and fewer, was what he said. He did not specify how much larger, how much fewer.
    I believe we'd start having some of the sorts of problems we see in polygamous cultures, or in tight-knit clans which rarely marry outsiders, such as the Ashkenazi Jews and the Hmong.
    These problems would include birth defects and genetic mutations.
    I don't know about fewer or not marrying outsiders but I'd personally welcome larger kinship groups, it might help stem the progressive slid into atomism.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    That's one way to bottleneck the gene pool, I guess.
    I happen to think there's more strength in diversity.
    The belief that diversity inherently creates strength is a common misconception.

    In humans, there is far more than enough genetic variety in a somewhat smaller breeding population to prevent questions of degradation of inherited traits from becoming an issue.

    At the risk of being thought a proponent of Eugenics, which I am not, did you think that fine livestock was created by allowing all memebers of the herd to breed? You would be quite incorrect if you did.

    I do not favor much genetic selection of humans though, except to eliminate disease. I prefer selection based on willingness, even above ability, of the parents to provide for the childrens' needs across a very wide spectrum.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    If the gay couple is vetted by the service and found just as capable as a straight couple of raising the child, then I don't see why not. Fostering safe and stable homes for these kids is all that matters. Its not like the adoption process is quick and easy.
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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that children raised by same sex parents turn out worse than those raised by opposite sex parents. I fully support gay adoption, being gay myself. My state recently made it legal for single women and lesbians to have access to IVF treatment, so I am looking foward to becoming a single mother by choice (yeah yeah, berate all you like) with the blessing of the state government.

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    Re: Do you object to gay couples adopting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I favor a traditional family
    There is no such thing as a 'traditional' family.

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