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Thread: The Five Stages of Collapse

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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    China isn't truly Communist anyway... they embrace the free market with arms open. They justify it by saying that Capitalism will eventually lead to another Revolution in its borders by creating inequity between the classes. Gee, wasn't Revolution their job in the first place? I guess, in the mean time, let's rake in profits!

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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    It seems to this old truckdriver that if your best customer (Consumer America) goes down, the producers (China, India) would go down as well.
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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I am not eager for the collapse of the US.. But when you do not see your own collapse coming, it will be impossible to prevent it. I am eager to warn, and I want you to avoid collapse.

    Broadly I believe in the collapse of the capitalist economic model and the failure of democracy as we know it today. And such a collapse can either cause a huge collapse in both the US and Europe, or it can be changed with reforms. In addition for the US, there are several other things that in addition to those valid for Europe, also can bring about a collapse, increased extremism and polarization, a stagnative society in relative decline, lack of clear direction, militarism as a solution to problems not understood, suppressive almost fascist government, political problems and so fourth.

    Seeing what is going on in the world and especially in the US, it would NOT surprise me if the US actually do collapse, nor would a second US civil war surprise me.
    Any collapse of the capitalist economic model will not result from a fault in the model, but due to not following the model.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)

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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Any collapse of the capitalist economic model will not result from a fault in the model, but due to not following the model.
    That's a good point... I mean, if we really had a 'Free market' form of capitalism, how is it that we can go from a healthy economy, to a recession, to the start of a depression within a 6 month period?

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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    I wish I could say, but since we know we're not following the model; no one blame the model.
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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I am not eager for the collapse of the US.. But when you do not see your own collapse coming, it will be impossible to prevent it. I am eager to warn, and I want you to avoid collapse.

    Broadly I believe in the collapse of the capitalist economic model and the failure of democracy as we know it today. And such a collapse can either cause a huge collapse in both the US and Europe, or it can be changed with reforms. In addition for the US, there are several other things that in addition to those valid for Europe, also can bring about a collapse, increased extremism and polarization, a stagnative society in relative decline, lack of clear direction, militarism as a solution to problems not understood, suppressive almost fascist government, political problems and so fourth.

    Seeing what is going on in the world and especially in the US, it would NOT surprise me if the US actually do collapse, nor would a second US civil war surprise me.
    The coming collapse is the result of repeated and incessant attempts to put the chains of socialism on a formerly free people.

    Socialism is the disease killing America today.

    Capitalism is the cure, the only thing that can save it.

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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Let me point out one other thing. A lot of people on here that represent the far right seem to be remarkably ignorant of the history of communism. Nation's do not gradually embrace communism. Liberalism does not lead to communism. In fact, communist regimes have always despised liberals because of their advocacy for civil liberties.
    Good thing you pointed that out.

    Naturally, the "liberals" you're talking about are the libertarians that embrace human rights, not the American "liberals" that are socialists who have no respect for the rights of the individual or any concept of the meaning of personal freedom or personal responsiblity.

    Communists just looooove the American Liberal. (Who was it that barbequed Waco, again? Oh, that's right, a liberal president)

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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Good thing you pointed that out.

    Naturally, the "liberals" you're talking about are the libertarians that embrace human rights, not the American "liberals" that are socialists who have no respect for the rights of the individual or any concept of the meaning of personal freedom or personal responsiblity.

    Communists just looooove the American Liberal. (Who was it that barbequed Waco, again? Oh, that's right, a liberal president)
    Clinton was hardly a liberal.
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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I wish I could say, but since we know we're not following the model; no one blame the model.
    Of course they're going to blame the capitalist model. They're socialists trying to get the wool over our eyes, down our bodies, and past our feet so they can tie up most securely.

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    Re: The Five Stages of Collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Clinton was hardly a liberal.
    Yeah. Sure. Next you'll be telling us that he isn't a rapist.

    Liberal...rapist....not much difference.

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