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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Even if you aren't responsible for your ancestors' actions, their actions have created a system whereby you have white (or "nonblack") privilege. So while you didn't create the system, you directly benefit from it.
    Today? Haha. No.

    White people that hire and fire are desperate to hire a black person qualified for a job. All the white people around me seem to run around desperately trying to prove they aren't racists by saying "I have lots of black friends".

    Racism today has become this goofy notion that omnipresent evil within whites accounts for all social injustice.

    I am privileged because my mom put herself through medical school on loans. It was chance - I was born into a family that was not impoverished (but not rich). I was lucky enough to be born to a hard working woman that provided for me. It has everything to do with chance/blessing/fate that I am not poor - not my skin color.

    Well I don't believe in the big scary racist ghost anymore. It died when section 8 housing destroyed the neighborhood I grew up in. People got an unfair advantage based on their skin color and ended up failing anyway, destroying the place I grew up in the process.

    Life is hard for everyone, not just blacks. I'm so ****ing tired of hearing about the plights of minorities in this country. I have cigarette burns and knife cuts all over my arms and chest and face trying to relieve all the ****ing pressure I'm under every goddam day - then some ****ing idiot tells me that on top of everything else, I'm a racist because I'm white.

    You know what real racism is? Real racism is running around convincing black people that they have no chance to succeed, because whites all around them secretly hate them and won't allow it. Real racism is a white pastor in a black church feeding off the fear and desperation of 1000 hopeless people for applause and misplaced admiration.

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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Nice rant.

    But at least you don't have to worry about getting pulled over for driving while black, right?

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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Nice rant.

    But at least you don't have to worry about getting pulled over for driving while black, right?
    I've been pulled over for driving while white. DEpends on the neighborhood you are driving in. It's bull****, but it happens to us honkies as well.
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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Nice rant.

    But at least you don't have to worry about getting pulled over for driving while black, right?
    You don't listen. You don't read.

    I mix emotion with a point I am trying to make. It makes my posts more readable. I see no reason to speak without feeling on a site designed for debate.

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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    I learned it at home. My father was just a hairs breadth away from being a full fledged Aryan Nations devotee. He had a burning hatred of Blacks and Jews. Why I really do not know. Out of 6 brothers and sisters he was the only one that thought like that and his mother was a devout Greek Byzantine Catholic who loved everybody. He actually studied and admired Hitler. Which in my later years I found to be rather odd because my family is of Slavic descent and Hitler had no use for our people either. I never developed the hatred my father had but I had the mind set common to uneducated racism.

    The military was the my first real exposure to other non white people. We lived ate and slept together. It did not take long for me to realize there was something seriously wrong with my fathers world view of other people. From there began a long journey of learning about other peoples and cultures. My dad must have spun out of his grave the day I married an Asian woman. He didn't like Asians either

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    See what im sayin? U joined the military, you found a new 'us'. A new comunity. And all of a sudden, all of the thigns that had previously made 'the other' 'them' melted away.

    But id imagine in the U.S military, that you will find a large ammount of racial predjudice towards Arabs.

    But if you were put in a diferant situation (say war with Iran) these 'us' and 'them' bariers would also melt away (for those who hold them). For many, only to be replaced by another imagined comunity of 'us' against another comunity of 'them'.

    I think suprisingly few people GENUINELY manage to escape this 'us' and them way of viewing the world. And that Racism is just one of its manifestations. We as being have had a historical evolutionary interest in having tightly knit comunities. And the most effective way for these comunities to exist and porsper is in definition to an 'other'. Racism is but one way this manifests itself. We can ahve the same things occur on many levels (Polpot for example had anyone who owned reading classes shot, as it was a sign of upper class decadence. Some people seek to bash and/or kill homosexuals. And some would have you killed for blaspheming god. Some that a persons worth as a human is defined by a title in front of a name. And others would shun you entirely for not believing in global warming, or wearing fur.

    Each of these actions bind an imagined comunity together.

    Oh, by the way, I might sound dispasionate. But I do hate it.
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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    I've been pulled over for driving while white.
    First, you're going to have to explain the situation. I highly doubt that you got pulled over because you're white.

    Second, even if you did, it's almost unheard of to be pulled over for "being white". It's not even comparable.

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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    First, you're going to have to explain the situation. I highly doubt that you got pulled over because you're white.

    Second, even if you did, it's almost unheard of to be pulled over for "being white". It's not even comparable.
    I was driving on the west side of chicago at night. I got pulled over becuase the cop thought I was buying drugs. It's not all that unheard of round these parts. It's racial profiling as they figure the only honkies driving around that area at night are buying drugs. I wasn't by the way. I had just dropped off a freind from a party we were at.
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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Ever thought about contrasting that with the kind of attention locals get for being suspected of selling drugs?
    Not to take away from your experiance or anything. Thatd grow mad tiresome hapening where you live. Like you aint allowed to live there if ur not a junkie cause ur white. But just to put it in a little perspective. U get treated like a potential user. Black males in the same comunity as you got pulled over in probably get treated as dangerous and hardened criminals.

    I think I know what id rather get profiled as, my brother of ivory persuasion (first I took the word 'cracker' back, and now im workin on the euphamisms. Ohhh yeahhh.)

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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Talk View Post
    Ever thought about contrasting that with the kind of attention locals get for being suspected of selling drugs?
    Not to take away from your experiance or anything. Thatd grow mad tiresome hapening where you live. Like you aint allowed to live there if ur not a junkie cause ur white. But just to put it in a little perspective. U get treated like a potential user. Black males in the same comunity as you got pulled over in probably get treated as dangerous and hardened criminals.

    I think I know what id rather get profiled as, my brother of ivory persuasion (first I took the word 'cracker' back, and now im workin on the euphamisms. Ohhh yeahhh.)
    I never denied that it is far worse for the denizens of that particular neighborhood being profiled as something based entirely on their skin-tone. Its total bull****. That being said, being pulled over for being white does actually exist. That was the only point I was making.




    P.S. I'm cool with being called a cracker, honkey, wonderbread, or any other honkadelic epitaph that someone can come up with. I've been known to call myself Count Honkula from time to time. It's my rapper name
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    Re: Where does racism come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I never denied that it is far worse for the denizens of that particular neighborhood being profiled as something based entirely on their skin-tone. Its total bull****. That being said, being pulled over for being white does actually exist. That was the only point I was making.




    P.S. I'm cool with being called a cracker, honkey, wonderbread, or any other honkadelic epitaph that someone can come up with. I've been known to call myself Count Honkula from time to time. It's my rapper name
    All good. Your point is valid, and worth bringing to the attention of people who are unaware that such forms of profiling also exist. I can find no fault in your reason here, and didnt mean to sound like it was an attack.


    As for being called cracker, I dont mind being called it by white people. Or by non whites with whom im quite close who use it warmly. But if a non white calls me a cracker with venom, im taking offense. I presume less than most black men would, as Its not such a raw nerve (i dont fear anti white racism and I am not particularly insecure in my ethnicity <altho my countrymen do make me wonder at time>). But I will take offense.

    I dont mind a white man that is being a racist getting called a cracker tho.
    But thats cause thats what cracker means. A racist white. I just dont think its fair to be calling someone a racist white based on skin color in an offensive way. Also, because I believe that if you allow people to disrespect you so, they will not take you seriously. So when I tell the biggest black man in the room that calls me a cracker that I dont apreciate that racist ****, I am sending a clear message. I demand your respect and will not be punked quietly. It is no diferant to when he suggest I let him win the game of pool, and procede to play better than I have all night. People will test you. And if you let them, theyll take advantage of percieved weekness or tolerance for disrespect.
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