View Poll Results: If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is?

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    Re: If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I support what the state constitution says, and it doesn't really matter as long as it's constitutional.
    I find it amusing that you would say what ever your state constitution says when you do not know jack **** what it says. How do you know that you actually agree with it? Is this "I support what ever my state constitution says",when you do not know what it says a way of saying you could care less who gets to pick a replacement? Is it a way of saying that you do not mind if corrupt politicians have the opportunity to auction off political offices to the highest bidder?
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    Re: If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is

    I think the best idea is to have a special election as soon as possible. That would probably be no more than a year from the resignation/death of the previous office-holder.

    However, I don't have a problem with certain states allowing the governor to appoint a replacement in the interim. As long as said governor isn't, say, selling the office to the highest bidder.
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    Re: If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is

    Special elections are somewhat unrealistic. As stated earlier, they can take beyond a year to do, cost significant sums of money and quite frankly be a distraction.

    A better alternative would simply be to have the governor nominate a candidate and have the state legislature confirm or reject on a super majority basis. Cheaper and faster and at least in theory democratic. Plus this would allow the minority to effectively ensure scum like Illinois's governor don't get his way.
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    Re: If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Special elections are somewhat unrealistic. As stated earlier, they can take beyond a year to do, cost significant sums of money and quite frankly be a distraction.
    I don't see why they would take beyond a year. Many states allow for special elections, and I've never heard of them having any more problems than any other elections.

    Since most states have some kind of elections at least twice a year (April-ish and November), I don't see what would be so difficult about adding another race to the ballot.

    As for the cost...well, elections are always an expense in a democracy. That shouldn't be the overriding factor though.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child
    A better alternative would simply be to have the governor nominate a candidate and have the state legislature confirm or reject on a super majority basis. Cheaper and faster and at least in theory democratic. Plus this would allow the minority to effectively ensure scum like Illinois's governor don't get his way.
    Ya but that would still occasionally result in situations like this, if the minority either A) doesn't know about the illicit dealings, or B) is a part of the illicit dealings themselves.

    I think that governors should be able to appoint replacements on a very short-term basis...but only because there's the possibility of a terrorist attack on Washington that destroys much of Congress.

    Overall, a special election is much more democratic and cleaner.
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    Re: If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is?

    The people, by having another election.
    A governor or some other elected official.
    The politician leaving his office(assuming he left on good terms)
    The opponent of the politician leaving office.
    other.


    With Illinois governor accused of selling/auctioning off Obama's seat it is apparent that elected officials can not be trusted to do the job.
    Interesting question this.. I could remind of Tony Blair when he left the prime minister job, the party then elected Gordon Brown, and he was put in power without election by the people..
    Such important posts should always be decided on by the people, not that I support single people with so much power(in such posts), but rather new politics where such posts doesn't exist.
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    Re: If a politician leaves his office,who should get to decide who the replacement is

    Having the Governor pick a Senator's replacement is a throwback to the days before passage of the 17th Amendment to the Constitution, when Senators were appointed by the various states. The mistake with that amendment, IMHO, is that the door was still left open to elected officials to decide on a replacement, instead of directly electing a replacement.

    However, there is a pretty neat loophole in the 17th Amendment...

    When vacancies happen in the representation of any state in the Senate, the executive authority of such state shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, that the legislature of any state may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.
    So the state Legislative branch giveth, and the state Legislative branch taketh away. Time for the Legislature of Illinois to get off their collective asses and taketh away. If they really believe that the present Illinois governor should be stripped of the power to appoint Obama's replacement, then the ball is in their court. It's time to slam dunk that puppy.
    Last edited by danarhea; 12-13-08 at 12:55 PM.
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