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Firearms - The Primary Problem

The primary problem with firearms

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Tucker Case said:
I don't know about all that, but I do know what you call an Australian who is allergic to sheep.



A virgin. :2razz:
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Hey I'm British but that is what we say about the Welsh and what the Aussies say about the New Zealanders. Everyone seems to say it seems.
 
Tucker Case said:
My brother-in-law (he's from Leeds) says it about my family (Irish) :mrgreen:
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I just bought a beer called Sheepshagger.

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I think it is Scottish.
 
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earthworm said:
Do not not read the papers ?
And the number of murders in our nation as compared to civilized nations ?
Does this mean anything ?
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Oh, you want to talk about violence. I'm sorry, I read the thread title to be about a tool. The tool works as designed, there is no problem.
 
dragonslayer said:
I am an active gun owner, and I love it. yet i think of all the lives that would be saved yearly if there were no guns. People are the problem, but no guns would save thousands of live annually.
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I am a gun owner of long standing.

Yes People are the problem. yet if there were no guns available to people, a lot of men, women and children would still be alive.
 
dragonslayer said:
I am a gun owner of long standing.

Yes People are the problem. yet if there were no guns available to people, a lot of men, women and children would still be alive.
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Lets see. is "no guns available" to the people a realistic ideal?

If so how would YOU make that so?
 
dragonslayer said:
I am a gun owner of long standing.

Yes People are the problem. yet if there were no guns available to people, a lot of men, women and children would still be alive.
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And alot more would be dead because they had nothing to defend themselves with.
 
Invayne said:
And alot more would be dead because they had nothing to defend themselves with.
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Wait...what about the "but hey, knives are dangerous. They should be regulated too. Or hey, pens can be dangerous. They should be regulated too..."etc. etc. ad nauseum.

No contrary to argument people are capable of defending themselves even without guns. There is of course the criminal element who will get access to guns irrespective of the laws and in that case I'm not certain bringing a knife to a gun fight is feasible.
 
:shock:This is a ..."NO Brainer"...If guns were completely illigal and completely abolished the only people that would have them are the criminals!!!
How can anyone not foresee this?!

Do you realize how much more confidence or boldness criminals would have to be able to do home invasions, etc.?

Do I need to go on?........WTF:shock:
 
creativedreams said:
:shock:This is a ..."NO Brainer"...If guns were completely illigal and completely abolished the only people that would have them are the criminals!!!
How can anyone not foresee this?!

Do you realize how much more confidence or boldness criminals would have to be able to do home invasions, etc.?

Do I need to go on?........WTF:shock:
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I like your way of thinking....rational!
 
Which brings me to this: Why the hell should I be afraid in my own house? Why should I be scared to take a walk at night? I REFUSE to live in fear because criminals get guns so easily. And if guns are banned under this dip**** that is our next president, then I will become the next criminal because unjust and unconstitutional laws were made to be broken.:2wave:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Lets see. is "no guns available" to the people a realistic ideal?

If so how would YOU make that so?
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I was and I am speaking hypothetically. Maybe we should encourage the use of Swords and only use guns in the military and police.

I don't want to see guns taken away. i get a lot of relaxation going to the pistol range, just like my father did playing golf.

I can see a drive by car with a big lance on it. Gang jousting lol
 
dragonslayer said:
I was and I am speaking hypothetically. Maybe we should encourage the use of Swords and only use guns in the military and police.

I don't want to see guns taken away. i get a lot of relaxation going to the pistol range, just like my father did playing golf.

I can see a drive by car with a big lance on it. Gang jousting lol
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Maybe we need some fancy satellites cause guns that lack a certain electronic signature to explode
 
dragonslayer said:
I was and I am speaking hypothetically. Maybe we should encourage the use of Swords and only use guns in the military and police.

I don't want to see guns taken away. i get a lot of relaxation going to the pistol range, just like my father did playing golf.

I can see a drive by car with a big lance on it. Gang jousting lol
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:rofl:rofl:rofl
 
If the primary problems is people, then the solution is to remove the guns from the people.

I have some swords for sale.
 
dragonslayer said:
I was and I am speaking hypothetically. Maybe we should encourage the use of Swords and only use guns in the military and police.

I don't want to see guns taken away. i get a lot of relaxation going to the pistol range, just like my father did playing golf.

I can see a drive by car with a big lance on it. Gang jousting lol
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WEll I think that WAS the motive behind the AWB, ganland bayonetting..... :lol:
 
dragonslayer said:
I was and I am speaking hypothetically. Maybe we should encourage the use of Swords and only use guns in the military and police
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You should research a bit more into the problems in the UK. They took away their guns. Then knives became a problem and they currently spend millions on anti-knife campaign advertisements. If you have a screwdriver in your car unsecured instead of in a toolbox and you are stopped by the police you can expect alot of harassment, a citation, and possibly even an arrest on a weapons charge. Heck, they even have strict regulations on Airsoft guns. Those things only shoot plastic bb's!!
 
Keorythe said:
You should research a bit more into the problems in the UK. They took away their guns. Then knives became a problem and they currently spend millions on anti-knife campaign advertisements. If you have a screwdriver in your car unsecured instead of in a toolbox and you are stopped by the police you can expect alot of harassment, a citation, and possibly even an arrest on a weapons charge. Heck, they even have strict regulations on Airsoft guns. Those things only shoot plastic bb's!!
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If this is true thank God for the revolution!!!!!

Sad because our country is slowly heading back toward what our forefathers were brave to breakaway from!
 
Bogus argument of gun control extremists
POLICE FATALITIES FOR ’08 PROVE CCW LAWS NO THREAT TO COPS, SAYS CCRKBA
By CCRKBA Tuesday, December 30, 2008

BELLEVUE, WA – Another bogus argument of gun control extremists – that sensible concealed carry laws create an increased threat to police officers – has been refuted by statistics from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund and published by USA Today.

The number of officer fatalities due to gunfire is the lowest in 50 years, noted Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. A report out Monday said that this year, 41 officers have died from gunshot wounds, down 40 percent from the 68 who died by gunfire in 2007. Yet the number of concealed carry permits issued by the states has risen, dramatically in some areas, in the past 12 months.

“Better training and equipment have contributed to this decline,” Gottlieb stated, “but it must be noted for the record that growing numbers of legally-armed citizens have not resulted in more police slayings. That has been one of the many lame arguments offered by gun control fanatics over the past few years when they fought against expanded concealed carry rights.

“The death of one police officer is a tragedy,” he continued, “but common sense right-to-carry statutes have no relation to the criminal slayings of police officers, and anti-gun rights extremists know it.”

The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund reports that more officers have died in traffic-related incidents than in shootings, same as last year, Gottlieb noted.

“There are, today, more legally-armed citizens than ever before,” he commented, “and more privately-owned firearms than ten or even five years ago. More Americans own semiautomatic sport-utility rifles, growing numbers of women own guns for personal protection and more citizens are involved in shooting sports.

“None of these law-abiding citizens pose any threat to public safety, and especially to the safety of our local police,” Gottlieb concluded. “We expect the new Congress, and state legislatures around the country, to keep this in perspective as the gun ban lobby mounts new attacks on firearm civil rights in 2009.”
POLICE FATALITIES FOR ’08 PROVE CCW LAWS NO THREAT TO COPS, SAYS CCRKBA


Oh well, argument over!:2wave:
 
Keorythe said:
You should research a bit more into the problems in the UK. They took away their guns. Then knives became a problem and they currently spend millions on anti-knife campaign advertisements. If you have a screwdriver in your car unsecured instead of in a toolbox and you are stopped by the police you can expect alot of harassment, a citation, and possibly even an arrest on a weapons charge. Heck, they even have strict regulations on Airsoft guns. Those things only shoot plastic bb's!!
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Heh...and they're pretty pissed off about it now.
The British called - They want their guns back!
 
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