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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    You should research a bit more into the problems in the UK. They took away their guns. Then knives became a problem and they currently spend millions on anti-knife campaign advertisements. If you have a screwdriver in your car unsecured instead of in a toolbox and you are stopped by the police you can expect alot of harassment, a citation, and possibly even an arrest on a weapons charge. Heck, they even have strict regulations on Airsoft guns. Those things only shoot plastic bb's!!

    If this is true thank God for the revolution!!!!!

    Sad because our country is slowly heading back toward what our forefathers were brave to breakaway from!

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    (snip..)

    Heck, they even have strict regulations on Airsoft guns. Those things only shoot plastic bb's!!
    Those things put people's eyes out!

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Bogus argument of gun control extremists
    POLICE FATALITIES FOR ’08 PROVE CCW LAWS NO THREAT TO COPS, SAYS CCRKBA
    By CCRKBA Tuesday, December 30, 2008

    BELLEVUE, WA – Another bogus argument of gun control extremists – that sensible concealed carry laws create an increased threat to police officers – has been refuted by statistics from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund and published by USA Today.

    The number of officer fatalities due to gunfire is the lowest in 50 years, noted Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. A report out Monday said that this year, 41 officers have died from gunshot wounds, down 40 percent from the 68 who died by gunfire in 2007. Yet the number of concealed carry permits issued by the states has risen, dramatically in some areas, in the past 12 months.

    “Better training and equipment have contributed to this decline,” Gottlieb stated, “but it must be noted for the record that growing numbers of legally-armed citizens have not resulted in more police slayings. That has been one of the many lame arguments offered by gun control fanatics over the past few years when they fought against expanded concealed carry rights.

    “The death of one police officer is a tragedy,” he continued, “but common sense right-to-carry statutes have no relation to the criminal slayings of police officers, and anti-gun rights extremists know it.”

    The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund reports that more officers have died in traffic-related incidents than in shootings, same as last year, Gottlieb noted.

    “There are, today, more legally-armed citizens than ever before,” he commented, “and more privately-owned firearms than ten or even five years ago. More Americans own semiautomatic sport-utility rifles, growing numbers of women own guns for personal protection and more citizens are involved in shooting sports.

    “None of these law-abiding citizens pose any threat to public safety, and especially to the safety of our local police,” Gottlieb concluded. “We expect the new Congress, and state legislatures around the country, to keep this in perspective as the gun ban lobby mounts new attacks on firearm civil rights in 2009.”
    POLICE FATALITIES FOR ’08 PROVE CCW LAWS NO THREAT TO COPS, SAYS CCRKBA


    Oh well, argument over!

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    You should research a bit more into the problems in the UK. They took away their guns. Then knives became a problem and they currently spend millions on anti-knife campaign advertisements. If you have a screwdriver in your car unsecured instead of in a toolbox and you are stopped by the police you can expect alot of harassment, a citation, and possibly even an arrest on a weapons charge. Heck, they even have strict regulations on Airsoft guns. Those things only shoot plastic bb's!!
    Heh...and they're pretty pissed off about it now.
    The British called - They want their guns back!

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonslayer View Post
    The Government of The People, for the People and by the People, shall not perish from the earth.
    1 dragonslayer, vs. 19


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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    Wait...what about the "but hey, knives are dangerous. They should be regulated too. Or hey, pens can be dangerous. They should be regulated too..."etc. etc. ad nauseum.

    No contrary to argument people are capable of defending themselves even without guns. There is of course the criminal element who will get access to guns irrespective of the laws and in that case I'm not certain bringing a knife to a gun fight is feasible.
    Not just that. A gun to a single civilian is an equalizer. You are one against many and the gun gives you "many". In my case I've got 20 friends backing me up when I walk out the door... You just won't see them untill the occasion calls for such measures. (See Below)

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Incorrect.
    Someone that wants to kill someone else, especially in cold blood, will always find a way.
    OK, then do we make this as easy as possible, as it is now in the USA; or do we make this difficult, as it is in England..
    Check out the murder rates for each nation....

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    OK, then do we make this as easy as possible, as it is now in the USA; or do we make this difficult, as it is in England..
    Check out the murder rates for each nation....


    Take away criminal on criminal murders and get back to us.


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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Take away criminal on criminal murders and get back to us.
    Also appropriately compare population. Key factor when pitting America against ________ methinks.

    Either way, we can not reasonably remove guns from everyone, so our only option is to... I dunno... abide by the rules our country was founded on?
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