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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    What are kentucy fried colonel ignores is that england had almost NO handgun violence before they started banning them and once they banned them their rate of handgun violence went up as did HOME INVASION robberies. White Americans have a lower rate of gun violence than whites in the UK
    Oh, so then perhaps we should only extend the 2nd amendment to white people. That was an intelligent comment.

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueKC View Post
    Oh, so then perhaps we should only extend the 2nd amendment to white people. That was an intelligent comment.
    IT is an intelligent comment because it is true. White people in the USA-with a fair amount of freedom to own guns have a lower rater of violence with guns than whites in the UK where handguns are banned. That is a pretty good argument that gun bans won't make us safer and remember, England is an Island while we have thousands of miles of borders.
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Originally Posted by bhkad
    That's why there should be a major study conducted on the effects of video games on the youngest generation to determine if there is a cause and effect on young people committing random acts of violence.

    The 8 year old who killed his dad and the dad's friend seemed well adjusted to killing. Not just shooting, as his dad may have taught him, but killing.

    That may have come from an over exposure to violent games. Just as not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic, not every kid who plays "Grand Theft Auto" is going to go on a shooting rampage.
    But some may.

    We need to KNOW THE TRUTH about the effects of video games and acts of violence in this country.
    That reminds me of the christian guy in "Bowling for Columbine" that was against Marylin Manson and said that he was bad because not eveybody that goes to see him will kill somebody, but some do just like not everybody that watches a Lexus add will buy one, but some do!

    I think that we seriously need to study the effects of eating vegetables, because I bet the we would find that not everybody that eats vegetables goes out and kills somebody, but some do!

    I have played tons of violent video games, as have many many many others that I know, and NOT ONE of us has ever even started a fight, let alone killed somebody. It is innate to the person and/or how they are raised as well as the environment in which they live... this violent nature, and it has NOTHING to do with games and such solely.
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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueKC View Post
    Oh, so then perhaps we should only extend the 2nd amendment to white people. That was an intelligent comment.
    Intelligence would be to atempt to understand the others reasoning PRIOR to making an ignorant assumption... right? Right!
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    IT is an intelligent comment because it is true. White people in the USA-with a fair amount of freedom to own guns have a lower rater of violence with guns than whites in the UK where handguns are banned. That is a pretty good argument that gun bans won't make us safer and remember, England is an Island while we have thousands of miles of borders.
    Or it is an example of white flight from the areas most predisposed to violence. Does that stat control for socio-economic variables?

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueKC View Post
    Or it is an example of white flight from the areas most predisposed to violence. Does that stat control for socio-economic variables?
    In the USA perhaps... what about the UK?
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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Well I can tell you what is the worst possible reaction-banning honest people from owning guns.
    Agreed. The 2nd Amendment is our guarantee to bear arms and the GCA augments the 2nd by stipulating who may not possess weapons.

    I guess for me the question I'm seeking answers to is how do we realistically, without pandering to some sort of unreachable utopian ideal, keep arms out of the hands of the criminal element who would use them for their own heinous purposes...

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    Agreed. The 2nd Amendment is our guarantee to bear arms and the GCA augments the 2nd by stipulating who may not possess weapons.

    I guess for me the question I'm seeking answers to is how do we realistically, without pandering to some sort of unreachable utopian ideal, keep arms out of the hands of the criminal element who would use them for their own heinous purposes...


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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    In the USA perhaps... what about the UK?
    That one's easy; in the UK it's tougher to shoot each other because there is gun control.

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    Re: Firearms - The Primary Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueKC View Post
    That one's easy; in the UK it's tougher to shoot each other because there is gun control.
    Where is the disconnect? Is it me?

    It doesn't matter whether the whites live in the ghetto or in the suburbs if they are falling victim to home invasions and gun violence. If the USA whites flee they can still be subject to crimes... so why are the UK whites rates of crime rising faster than those in the USA?
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