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Thread: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

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    Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Probably an anglicized version of the Portuguese/Spanish 'negro' or the French 'negre'. The word 'nigger' was used in one form or another(negroes) for more then 200 years by the government, slave owners and the white majority in America. Somewhere around the mid 1800s it began carrying a negative connotation and it was replaced by the word 'Colored'. Because of the history of the word one can not consider calling a black person a 'nigger' to be racist. Do you agree?
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    It's how slurry-ass antebellum Southerners said "negro".
    "Negro", of course, = "black" in spanish (and possibly portuguese; I don't know for sure, although I know the two languages are similar) and was once the accepted term of the day for black people.

    That's why it is racist.
    The history of southerners and "negros" is too ugly.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Yes, as 1069 said, plantation owners referred to their slaves as "niggers." This is to degrade them, so it was historically used as a racist word.
    I also believed that the slaves invented the term "niggas" as a way to make fun of it.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Countdown to jamesrage ariving to defend the word "nigger" as legitimate free speech in 3, 2, 1...

    And yes, it's unacceptable. The linguistic origin of the word may not be racist in itself, but since the days of slavery it's been used as a slur to denigarte an dehumanise black folks. It's history is too tainted for it to be considered just another racial description.

    On the other hand, I do understand why black men are trying to reclaim the word, and to put some neutral/positive meaning into some of it's usage amongst themselves. They're trying to rob an ugly slur of the power it holds as a tool of hate, and I say more power to them.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    It doesn't matter the literal word simply originates from 'black' in Portugese, it's about what the word means and what is communicated. Now no word is racist in an appropriate context, but most of the time it's used to effectively communicate hatred, intolerance, and yes, racism.

    The answer to your question is, yes, it DOES communicate racism in reallity. Whether or not is SHOULD is a different debate.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Its cultural history is just as important as its history of origin, if not more so. The word has dramatic social connotations, and has for at least a couple of centuries. You can say that people should hear its origin and history instead of its modern connotation what it's yelled across the street or whispered in your ear, but then you can say that for practically any word. What matters is its implications now.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    It's how slurry-ass antebellum Southerners said "negro".
    "Negro", of course, = "black" in spanish (and possibly portuguese; I don't know for sure, although I know the two languages are similar) and was once the accepted term of the day for black people.

    That's why it is racist.
    The history of southerners and "negros" is too ugly.
    Is the history of Northern slavery and lynchings ugly, too? Or just the Southern history?

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Is the history of Northern slavery and lynchings ugly, too? Or just the Southern history?
    The history of whites and blacks in America is ugly and vicious, which is why we also no longer refer to blacks as "coloreds", "darkies", "blackamoors", or any other archaic name that we had for them, which might recall those former times, and our shameful treatment of our fellow human beings.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    it's racist because most people use this word in a racist way

    but as several posters have already said, it comes from Portuguese (Nero) or Spanish (Negro) words who don't have a racist connotation. Used in French (ngre) or in English, it is pejorative and means you're talking about an inferior population that should be enslaved.

    But I'm not an expert. The only thing I know is that at certain times some words are considered as racist/unpolite...while 100 years later or earlier it may be totally different. It's just a cultural norm.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Probably an anglicized version of the Portuguese/Spanish 'negro' or the French 'negre'. The word 'nigger' was used in one form or another(negroes) for more then 200 years by the government, slave owners and the white majority in America. Somewhere around the mid 1800s it began carrying a negative connotation and it was replaced by the word 'Colored'. Because of the history of the word one can not consider calling a black person a 'nigger' to be racist. Do you agree?

    If a word is allegedly hurtful and racist then no one would use the word. You don't see gays running around saying yo whats up my faggots or fudge packers, native Americans running around saying whats up my prairie niggers, arabs running around saying whats up my sand niggers, white people running around saying whats up my crackers,mexicans running around saying whats up my beaners or chinese people running around saying whats up my chinks to their friends. It is hypocritical for race parasites like Jessy Jackson or Al Sharpton to bitch about white people using the the word nigger when black people use it all the time.They need to shut the hell up. The oh they are just taking the power of hate out the word is a load of crap and a hypocritical excuse. If you think it is racist offensive and all kinds of other **** then not only would you not tolerate people of other races using the word, you yourself wouldn't use word yourself nor would you tolerate people in your own race using the word.
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