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Thread: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Actually webster dictionary supports my position that it is not a racial slur while the word nigger is.

    wetback - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    wet·back Listen to the pronunciation of wetback
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈwet-ˌbak\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    from the practice of wading or swimming the Rio Grande where it forms the U.S.-Mexico border
    Date:
    1929

    usually offensive : a Mexican who enters the United States illegally




    nigger - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.
    Did you read what you just posted or are you flat out lying? What does it say just before "a Mexican who enters the US illegally"? USUALLY OFFENSIVE. You understand that correct? From your own definition.

    But here, from Wikipedia:
    Wetback is a derogatory term for a person who has immigrated illegally to the United States. Commonly referring to Mexicans who have crossed the border illegally, the term originated with those who entered Texas by crossing the Rio Grande, presumably by swimming or wading across and getting his or her back wet in the process.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetback_(slur)
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    Do you think referring to someone as "Negroid" in a discussion of races etc is "racist" - or does lack of recognizing current social correctness make it racist?
    I wouldn't necessarily say it was racist, (that'd depend on the context) but there's other terms that can be used that don't have as much of a dodgy history. "Black", for example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988
    MY BF is Native American, but is not offended by "Indian" and says that is commonly how Native Americans refer to each other.
    Different members of different groups are okay with different labels. I've no problem being called a Scot (the accurate term for a Scottish person), but being called a "Jock" annoys me because it's generally used as an insult by the English. A lot of what makes language acceptable depends on the history of it's usage and the context in which it's used.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Have you ever been to "the North"? What part of the geographical United States does that term even encompass?
    Good point. This is why I think it's incorrect for people to make blanket generalizations like "The South" is more racist than "The North" or vice versa. I'm sure that race relations are much better in New York City than they are in Mississippi and Arkansas. On the other hand, there is an enormous amount of racism in Ohio and Michigan that seems largely absent from southern places like
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Did you read what you just posted or are you flat out lying? What does it say just before "a Mexican who enters the US illegally"? [SIZE=4]USUALLY OFFENSIVE[SIZE=2]. You understand that correct? From your own definition.
    Offensive doesn't make a word racist. Peple find the word "retarded" offensive,it doesn't mean that it is racist.And if you read the rest of the definition you would know that it refers to "mexicans who enter the US illegally". Its a geographical and action specified term not a racist or ethnic term. Its no different than saying people who live in hurricane prone areas are ****ing retarded inconsiderate morons.It doesn't label all people, just the ones who do a particular action.

    At DP it is a racial slur and against the rules.
    DP is political site dictated by the rules of a private individual,if that individual wishes to cave into political correctness out of some irrational fear of being labeled a racist or hate monger or go along with that political correctness to appease some political correct nuts then that is his business. It doesn't actually make the word a racial slur.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    I wouldn't necessarily say it was racist, (that'd depend on the context) but there's other terms that can be used that don't have as much of a dodgy history. "Black", for example.



    Different members of different groups are okay with different labels. I've no problem being called a Scot (the accurate term for a Scottish person), but being called a "Jock" annoys me because it's generally used as an insult by the English. A lot of what makes language acceptable depends on the history of it's usage and the context in which it's used.
    I agree. If a term is generally used or known to be perceived as a slur then it shouldn't be used.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Peple find the word "retarded" offensive,it doesn't mean that it is racist.

    It's not racist because it's not aimed at a race of people.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    I agree. If a term is generally used or known to be perceived as a slur then it shouldn't be used.
    That about sums it up for me.


    There is just no need or reason to call people by those names so I cannot even understand this arguement. Even if everyone all agreed nigger was not racist, why would you even call a black person that?

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    I agree. If a term is generally used or known to be perceived as a slur then it shouldn't be used.
    I'm fine with it being used, so long as the person doesn't try to pretend it isn't a slur.

    Hell, I've been called a spudnigger and I'll admit... I laughed.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    It's not racist because it's not aimed at a race of people.
    Wetback by definition is not aimed at a race of people either. Mexico is not a race nor is the term by definition applied to all Mexicans. It is applied to those who violate our immigration laws(see websters dictionary),just like the term illegal,except the term wetback is more specific on the location that the illegals are from.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 12-09-08 at 09:24 AM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I'm fine with it being used, so long as the person doesn't try to pretend it isn't a slur.

    Hell, I've been called a spudnigger and I'll admit... I laughed.
    Whats that half Irish and half black or black Irish,someone in Idaho? My friends used to joke that their children were niggaspikawoods.Both the parents were biracial,one was white and black and the other was white and hispanic.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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