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Thread: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Probably an anglicized version of the Portuguese/Spanish 'negro' or the French 'negre'. The word 'nigger' was used in one form or another(negroes) for more then 200 years by the government, slave owners and the white majority in America. Somewhere around the mid 1800s it began carrying a negative connotation and it was replaced by the word 'Colored'. Because of the history of the word one can not consider calling a black person a 'nigger' to be racist. Do you agree?
    I will go as far as suggesting that even when blacks use it on themselves it comes across as vulgar and offensive. This word needs to vanish from our lexicon as a bad reminder of an embarrassing past with slavery and abusing a race simply for the fact that they were uneducated and black.

    I find any defense of this word offensive no matter who is doing the defending.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So you are prejudice against against Northerners... How is that any different than being prejudice against Aferican Americans?
    African Americans are not an area of this country.

    My being prejudiced against Northerners is no different than someone being prejudiced against Southerners.

    It's ok with you if someone calls Southerners racists. You say nothing. But the minute someone calls Northerners racists you get upset and feel a need to post.

    Interesting.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Probably an anglicized version of the Portuguese/Spanish 'negro' or the French 'negre'. The word 'nigger' was used in one form or another(negroes) for more then 200 years by the government, slave owners and the white majority in America. Somewhere around the mid 1800s it began carrying a negative connotation and it was replaced by the word 'Colored'. Because of the history of the word one can not consider calling a black person a 'nigger' to be racist. Do you agree?
    Words are to communicate - including sentiment and emotion. The N-word came to be used so greatly as a hate-slur, that became its meaning. Words evolve.

    That has made it difficult to communicate now without straining to be politically correct - as in not insensitive or insulting. For example, we use "African-American" for blacks (negroids) - when millions of Africans of N. Africa actually are Arabic. Other blacks are generations away from Africa - such as from the Carribean. So whites can be called "Caucasians" or "Anglo-Saxons" (even though not all whites are "Anglo-Saxon"), but blacks are called by a geographic term - "African-American" rather than "Negroid" because then it sounds like you are using the N-word.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

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    Don't liberals argue that all speech is legitimate and that our founding forefathers created the 1st amendment to defend unpopular speech?
    There's a huge difference between free-speech and hate speech. There's also a huge difference between unpopular speech and hatespeech.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    That is a load of crap hypocrite excuse. IF you do not like the word then do not use it other words do not bitch or scream hate speech just because other people use the word.
    No, it's not. It's a sociological phenomena seen in many opressed populations i.e. the feminist magazine "Bitch", the use of "queer" as a self-used umbrella term to describe LGBT people, and of course, "nigger" when used by black men. It is, as I said, a way of trying to rob a vitrolic slur of some of it's power against an opressed group. If groups shat on by society what to do it as a way of taking power back rom those who opress them, I see zero wrong with that.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    And they're making a big mistake by doing that. All you then see is others who enjoy the idea of calling black people by that name say "see? they do it so why can't we?"
    If they're too stupid to understand the difference between screaming a word to cow and humiliate a specific group, and a specific group trying to rob a hateful word of it's power, that's there issue, not mine. Additionally, if they "enjoy" throwing around racial slurs, they'd find some other way to justify it to themselves.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If a word is allegedly hurtful and racist then no one would use the word. Is that a fact ?You don't see gays running around saying yo whats up my faggots or fudge packers, native Americans running around saying whats up my prairie niggers, arabs running around saying whats up my sand niggers, white people running around saying whats up my crackers,mexicans running around saying whats up my beaners or chinese people running around saying whats up my chinks to their friends.But some do, poor upbringing.. It is hypocritical for race parasites like Jessy Jackson or Al Sharpton to bitch about white people using the the word nigger when black people use it all the time.They need to shut the hell up. The oh they are just taking the power of hate out the word is a load of crap and a hypocritical excuse. If you think it is racist offensive and all kinds of other **** then not only would you not tolerate people of other races using the word, you yourself wouldn't use word yourself nor would you tolerate people in your own race using the word.
    The use of this word is disrespectful and stupid..We do not need this crap in our nation, not now, not ever..
    As a nation, it is time we grew up !

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    I just think it's plain, ole ugly to call someone that regardless of it's origins.



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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pitwolfy View Post
    I just think it's plain, ole ugly to call someone that regardless of it's origins.



    Just my opinion.
    I agree. The few times I have ocassion to use it (but never to call someone that, just as a literary shock), I cringe even typing it. And I can't even make myself say it on the first attempt ever.

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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    [There's a huge difference between free-speech and hate speech. There's also a huge difference between unpopular speech and hatespeech..
    No there is not. Speech is speech. Maybe in places like Canada and other politically correct ****ed up countries they made a so called distinction between the two, but not here in the US.


    No, it's not. It's a sociological phenomena seen in many opressed populations i.e. the feminist magazine "Bitch", the use of "queer" as a self-used umbrella term to describe LGBT people, and of course, "nigger" when used by black men. It is, as I said, a way of trying to rob a vitrolic slur of some of it's power against an opressed group. If groups shat on by society what to do it as a way of taking power back rom those who opress them, I see zero wrong with that
    Regardless of the reasons it is hypocritical for one group of people to piss and moan about another group using a word if they themselves use that word regardless of the context of the word being used. If you actually believed that the word was racist not only would you not use it you wouldn't tolerate others using it regardless of their skin color or the context in which they are using the word. The only thing you are doing is defending blatant hypocrisy.
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    Re: Why calling black people 'niggers' is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No there is not. Speech is speech. Maybe in places like Canada and other politically correct ****ed up countries they made a so called distinction between the two, but not here in the US.
    Actually, we have. It's called hate speech and hate crime laws. We even have one right here over DP.

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