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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    **** it! Let's just outlaw all marriage.
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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Isn't 'your marriage' part of the 'institution of marriage'?
    So you agree that all marriages fall under an umbrella idea of what the meaning of marriage is, and that subjective meanings are secondary?

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Well, if harming the 'institution of marriage' won't have any consequences, then why not allow gay marriage?
    Here again, who is claiming there wouldn't be any consequences? You haven't given a real example of anyone making that argument.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    That's... a pretty strange philosophy, Bonnie.
    And if you're an actual feminist- as in, belonging to feminist organizations such as NOW and NARAL- then I'm sure you're aware that we have a somewhat symbiotic relationship with gays and their organizations. Gays have done a lot to help advance women's rights, and we owe it to them to help advance their causes.
    No, I don't even like NOW and NARAL is just a pro-abortion group, not a women's rights group.

    While it doesn't matter, I do oppose criminalization of abortion, there are some guidelines and restrictions on abortions I support, and believe abortion also singularly is the woman's choice to make or even know the choice is being made. But I also believe that abortions are not going to be outlawed and on the list of real issues that matter, it is very low on the list.

    Mostly, I don't accept the concept of "women's issues" and that fundamentally is sexist and demeaning. They also have fragmented and essentially destroyed the otherwise feminist majority voters.

    I do not equate women's rights with the near singular issue of abortion of which you are dictated your side on the issue as well. I seem old-school feminists as the greatest barrier to further advancing equality for women as equals - not as a powerful minority special interest group.

    What have gays done to advance women's rights?
    Last edited by Bonnie1988; 12-02-08 at 09:12 PM.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    **** it! Let's just outlaw all marriage.
    I've posted this before. I believe the government should completely get out of the marriage business.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Anyone who sits and thinks so hard about the marriage of two homos that it causes conflict in their own marriage doesn't need to be married to start with.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Here again, who is claiming there wouldn't be any consequences? You haven't given a real example of anyone making that argument.
    I can play this game too, Jerry.

    When did I say that anyone said that there wouldn't be any consequences?

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    That's... a pretty strange philosophy, Bonnie.
    And if you're an actual feminist- as in, belonging to feminist organizations such as NOW and NARAL- then I'm sure you're aware that we have a somewhat symbiotic relationship with gays and their organizations. Gays have done a lot to help advance women's rights, and we owe it to them to help advance their causes.

    Allow me to rant on...

    Gays are a tiny minority based upon the issue of their alternate choice of sex-fun seeking full legal equality to non-gays in family, tax and employment laws for which generally their protests are deliberately anti-social and attempts to be shocking not to be persuasive but to be cool in a party sense - then outraged further that the people the intended to shock and offend are shocked and offended.

    Women were denied the right to vote longer than any other group, same for property rights and still no constitutional right to equal pay, equal representation, or equal treatment under the law.

    Gays have never been denied the right to vote, on average have higher salaries than straight women and straights on average, nor ever denied property rights. r of a tiny minority special interests group - I'm not a member of a minority at all. I'm one of THE majority of citizens and voters of this country - and without us literally there would be no gays, no country, nobody.

    Billions and billions of words for gay rights and equality. Not 5 posts outside my own of how women are paid on average thousands of dollars a year less in salary nor even 1 but mine on the lack of a constitutional amend to prohibit gender discrimination into the US or State constitutions.

    My view is simple. EXACTLY EVERYONE GROUP has cut in line in front of women on equality and I won't tolerate it. It literally would be no different than someone cutting in line in front of me at the bank and then expecting me to take his/her side when others push him/her to the back of the line.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    Allow me to rant on...

    Gays are a tiny minority based upon the issue of their alternate choice of sex-fun seeking full legal equality to non-gays in family, tax and employment laws for which generally their protests are deliberately anti-social and attempts to be shocking not to be persuasive but to be cool in a party sense - then outraged further that the people the intended to shock and offend are shocked and offended.

    Women were denied the right to vote longer than any other group, same for property rights and still no constitutional right to equal pay, equal representation, or equal treatment under the law.

    Gays have never been denied the right to vote, on average have higher salaries than straight women and straights on average, nor ever denied property rights. r of a tiny minority special interests group - I'm not a member of a minority at all. I'm one of THE majority of citizens and voters of this country - and without us literally there would be no gays, no country, nobody.

    Billions and billions of words for gay rights and equality. Not 5 posts outside my own of how women are paid on average thousands of dollars a year less in salary nor even 1 but mine on the lack of a constitutional amend to prohibit gender discrimination into the US or State constitutions.

    My view is simple. EXACTLY EVERYONE GROUP has cut in line in front of women on equality and I won't tolerate it. It literally would be no different than someone cutting in line in front of me at the bank and then expecting me to take his/her side when others push him/her to the back of the line.
    Yeah gays in America have had it so easy. Not like being gay was ever outlawed.
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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Of course allowing gays to marry won't have any effect on my marriage. It would, however, affect the society I live in because the last bastion of legalized descrimation and bigotry would have been leglislated away. The result? A better society.

    I'm truly ashamed of my fellow California voters.

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