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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    One of the reasons cited by opponents of gay marriage is the effect it'll have on marriage in America. That has got me wondering. How will gay marriage affect the marriages of those who oppose it.
    Ant-gm is claiming an effect on the institution of marriage, so why are you asking about individual marriages instead of the institution?

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    lol. The poll choices are ridiculous. C'mon Hatuey. At least try to make it appear like this is a legitimate poll.
    Or at least a 3rd option: Gay marriage has helped me realize how precious my marriage is.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Obviously, same sex marriage isn't going to affect anyone. It's not going to make your relationships any less meaningful, it's not going to make you fall out of love, it's not going to make you head for the divorce courts. It doesn't cheapen the meaning of marriage, it makes it stronger, and all those people who are blind to all these facts need to pull their heads out of the sand.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    One of the reasons cited by opponents of gay marriage is the effect it'll have on marriage in America. That has got me wondering. How will gay marriage affect the marriages of those who oppose it. Will it make them want to divorce their partner because they feel their marriage is no longer as valid as it was before gay people were allowed to marry? Or will nothing change?
    Perhaps the tradition of Holy Matrimony should be left to the church(s) and civil union left to the state. I guess I don't understand if this 'homosexual marriage' issue is trying to force churches to marry homosexuals or if all homosexuals want is civil unions. Maybe someone explaining that to me would help.
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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    Perhaps the tradition of Holy Matrimony should be left to the church(s) and civil union left to the state. I guess I don't understand if this 'homosexual marriage' issue is trying to force churches to marry homosexuals or if all homosexuals want is civil unions. Maybe someone explaining that to me would help.
    The anti-homosexual activists do not want the State or Federal governments to sanction homosexual relationships at all.

    The homosexuals want the State and Federal governments to recognize their relationships as identical to heterosexual ones-- which means that, legally, their relationships have to use the same laws and the same terminology as heterosexual marriages.

    These two groups have mutually exclusive goals. What people who argue for compromise solutions like "civil unions" do not understand is that their position not only does not give either party everything they want, it gives both parties nothing. Civil unions would be the State recognizing homosexual relationships and extending legal benefits to them, but because it would be a separate legal identity from marriage, those benefits would not include the Federal benefits extended to marriage and would vary widely from State to State.

    There is no compromise solution. Churches are already free to sanction marriages as they see fit-- whether to refuse to sanction homosexual marriages where they are legal, or to insist upon sanctioning them where they are illegal-- and the State's sanction of a marriage lies within the legal privileges it bestows, not the name by which it is called.

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The anti-homosexual activists do not want the State or Federal governments to sanction homosexual relationships at all.

    The homosexuals want the State and Federal governments to recognize their relationships as identical to heterosexual ones-- which means that, legally, their relationships have to use the same laws and the same terminology as heterosexual marriages.

    These two groups have mutually exclusive goals. What people who argue for compromise solutions like "civil unions" do not understand is that their position not only does not give either party everything they want, it gives both parties nothing. Civil unions would be the State recognizing homosexual relationships and extending legal benefits to them, but because it would be a separate legal identity from marriage, those benefits would not include the Federal benefits extended to marriage and would vary widely from State to State.

    There is no compromise solution. Churches are already free to sanction marriages as they see fit-- whether to refuse to sanction homosexual marriages where they are legal, or to insist upon sanctioning them where they are illegal-- and the State's sanction of a marriage lies within the legal privileges it bestows, not the name by which it is called.
    Okay. I feel like I'm chasing my tail. Should the state mandate to church(s) what the church(s) recognizes as Holy Matrimony and legislate to the public what should be recognized as marriage?

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    It means that my current marriage will be annulled. I don't know why they have to make gay marriage mandatory.

    Oh, wait.......
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    Re: How will gay marriage affect your marriage?

    Quote Originally Posted by rsixing View Post
    Okay. I feel like I'm chasing my tail. Should the state mandate to church(s) what the church(s) recognizes as Holy Matrimony and legislate to the public what should be recognized as marriage?
    Two separate questions.

    I don't think the State has any business interfering in church business, just as the church has no business interfering in the State's.

    But I do think that the State has every prerogative to decide for itself which relationships it should extend special legal benefits to, and I think the State should use this prerogative in pursuit of society's interests.

    We could argue over which arrangements are in society's best interest-- though I suspect our views are similar-- but first, we would have to agree that this is what we are actually doing, and not arguing about religious principles or gay rights. These issues obscure what is relevant, as evidenced by the fact that nobody is considering the two questions in your post as separate matters.

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