View Poll Results: Should Capital Punishment be supported?

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  • It should be supported in both principle and practice.

    43 47.78%
  • Yes in principle, but not in practice due to the ambiguity of social bias.

    14 15.56%
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Thread: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's irrelevant. The death penalty is just that, a PENALTY for actions taken. Whether or not the criminal reforms or potentially does something good with their lives doesn't change the fact that they deserve to be punished for their action and that punishment is the end of their lives. I don't care how sorry they are for their action, the fact that they committed said action at all needs to be addressed.
    A greater penalty would be allowing them to rot in prison for 60+ years.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    I would have less of a problem in doing away with the death penalty if the convicted murderer received a life sentence with no parole and extremely curtailed prison perks and liberties. No more of this 'my cell is my castle' crap. The incarceration rules applied to Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg and Spandau come to mind.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    A greater penalty would be allowing them to rot in prison for 60+ years.
    Great, you pay for that. You pay for their food and upkeep, the prisons and the guards that have to be built and hired... oh, and have them build them in your back yard so others aren't inconvenienced.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    I am for capital punishment.

    Every year an inmate spends in prison costs taxpayers an average of $22,000. As prisoners get older, the cost of maintenance rises, ultimately reaching an average of $69,000 per year for those over the age of fifty-five. A study by a Stanford University professor estimated that the cost of a life term for an average California prisoner is $1.5 million.
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    Why do you want to pay to keep someone alive when they have absolutely no problem destroying someone else's life? Or multiple peoples' lives?

    Either start a new Australia or "Put 'em down".

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Of course they are irrelevant to you anti-death penalty nuts, you guys have as much compassion for victims and their loved ones as the scum on death row do. Which is why the scum on death row are there and why you and others like you advocate that we should not execute these scum.
    This is EXACTLY the type ofchildish emotionally charged nonsense the governemnt should not engage in.

    You advocate that the victims loved ones and honest law abiding citizens should be forced to support these scum for the rest of their lives that we should pay for their room, food, medical care, security, entertainment, libraries, rat lawyers to help them weasel out of their punishment, sex change operation and drugs(in some states) and many other things.

    Geez! I wasn't aware I had these beliefs. Can you teach me more about what I advocate?
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Removal of the a potential recidivist person from the general population is beneficail to the society as a whole. Going that extra step and removing that person from teh realm of the living is unneccesary and vengeance driven.

    What the victim and their loved one's want is irrelevant to my logic.

    Emotionally, I feel for them, but the post facto consideration of them is only done for emotional reasons, and justice should be emotionless.
    Not going to disagree, but what is just then?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I am for capital punishment.



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    Why do you want to pay to keep someone alive when they have absolutely no problem destroying someone else's life? Or multiple peoples' lives?

    Either start a new Australia or "Put 'em down".
    and yet it is still cheaper than a death sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    and yet it is still cheaper than a death sentence
    How much does it cost for 1 letha injection?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    How much does it cost for 1 letha injection?
    some people do debate it, but there are many articles, including some in this very thread that show it is cheaper to give someone a life sentence than to give them the death penalty and all the appeals and expenses that come with it

    I support the principal
    the reality is that it is too inefficient for this fiscal conservative

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Not going to disagree, but what is just then?
    It's acknowledging that I do have sympathy for the victims and their families. justice is blind, and it should also be heartless. I don't think emotional arguemtns should be made in any direction. The reason we have justice is for the betterment of society.

    The issue at hand when delivering a sentence is not "punishment" per se, it is prevention.

    Any person who commits as heinous an act as what is considered a capital offense should be locked up for life and given the bare minimum necessary for survival.

    I don't care about anything else besides removing them form society.

    The only reason for the death penalty is to act as retribution. Punishemnt above and beyond what is necessary is pointless.

    The ONLY arguemtns in favor of the Death Penalty are emotionally based. They are more expensive, ineffective as a deterrent, and valueless for the society as a whole.

    I have yet to hear a logical argument in favor of a Government killing it's own citizens that is emotionless. I would listent to such an argument. I've yet to hear it.

    I don;t make any emotional argumetns against the death penalty either. Liek I said, the issue is Justice, and Justice, IMO, should be blind and it should be emotionless.
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