View Poll Results: Should Capital Punishment be supported?

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  • It should be supported in both principle and practice.

    43 47.78%
  • Yes in principle, but not in practice due to the ambiguity of social bias.

    14 15.56%
  • It should be opposed both in principle and practice.

    33 36.67%
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Thread: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Can any of you anti-death penalty, but pro-Obama supporters give a link to your message in which you rage against Obama for supporting the death penalty for the rape of children?

    I'm sure you went into a real disagreement fit against Obama over that in very furious messages against Obama's stance on the issue. Please link to your past messages on that topic.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    Can any of you anti-death penalty, but pro-Obama supporters give a link to your message in which you rage against Obama for supporting the death penalty for the rape of children?

    I'm sure you went into a real disagreement fit against Obama over that in very furious messages against Obama's stance on the issue. Please link to your past messages on that topic.
    I wasn't an Obama supporter, but I don't really see how he is an issue. Did someone attack a political party or politicians and I missed it?
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I wasn't an Obama supporter, but I don't really see how he is an issue. Did someone attack a political party or politicians and I missed it?
    I'm being sarcastic.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    I'm being sarcastic.
    I thought it was more sardonic.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I thought it was more sardonic.
    You're very correct (and OH so very astute!)

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie1988 View Post
    (and OH so very astute!)
    No need to be sarcastic.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    No need to be sarcastic.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Being in prison for the rest of a person's life is far worse in my opinion. Why not give these criminals a life sentence and only the bare minimums (food and water)?
    Because they will never get that, the "criminal advocacy groups" will insist that they get cable TV and lots of exercise time and every modern convenience. Most people in prison live better inside than they would on the streets.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Being in prison for the rest of a person's life is far worse in my opinion. Why not give these criminals a life sentence and only the bare minimums (food and water)?
    Because it doesn't accomplish anything. The purpose of 'punishment' is reform, you punish people to change behavior, not just to be wicked and vengeful. If someone is spending the rest of thier life in prison there is no reason for them to be there, thier suffering is not going to bring back the ones they murdered, there is no reformation to be made no matter how many times they re-find Jesus while in prison. They are wasting tax money they don't deserve to burden us anymore then they already have, just kill them. Death is not barbaric, it's not unnatural, it's not inhumane, it's simply the most logical way to deal with these people and I don't see why we shouldn't.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    Because it doesn't accomplish anything. The purpose of 'punishment' is reform, you punish people to change behavior, not just to be wicked and vengeful. If someone is spending the rest of thier life in prison there is no reason for them to be there, thier suffering is not going to bring back the ones they murdered, there is no reformation to be made no matter how many times they re-find Jesus while in prison. They are wasting tax money they don't deserve to burden us anymore then they already have, just kill them. Death is not barbaric, it's not unnatural, it's not inhumane, it's simply the most logical way to deal with these people and I don't see why we shouldn't.
    I've always been thankful that Canada doesn't have capital punishment. I believe that the way we treat our criminals is a reflection of our society in general, and killing them displays a poor disposition towards the value we place on life.

    State sponsored murder is the easy way out. It's essentially sweeping the problem under the rug and letting it rot there, mostly because it prevents us from considering the complex web of events that lead to heinous crimes. Instead, it is more convenient to condemn the criminal, who is the last step in those series of events, as evil, and do away with him/her. That is not taking responsibility.

    If a criminal gets to the point of killing mercilessly, then it shows that not enough attention was paid to the warning signs when that person was growing up. Society has failed these people because their mental disturbance was not taken seriously enough early on.

    In my view, society SHOULD bear the burden for as long as the person remains alive, because it failed to take notice when it would have counted. I'm not claiming that intervention can save every person, but if you watch interviews with criminals on death row or read some of the books they publish, a lot of them are super intelligent people. Some are geniuses that have channeled their genius into crime and slaughter.
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