View Poll Results: Should Capital Punishment be supported?

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  • It should be supported in both principle and practice.

    43 47.78%
  • Yes in principle, but not in practice due to the ambiguity of social bias.

    14 15.56%
  • It should be opposed both in principle and practice.

    33 36.67%
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Thread: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    If they are guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, then screw all of those APPEALS and do away with him. Attorneys fees for all those appeals adds up.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Bounty Hunters do it all the time.
    Yeah, and so do the police. It's their job. What's the point?

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    Re: Particulars

    What am I looking for there?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Yeah, and so do the police. It's their job. What's the point?
    Bounty hunters are not associated with the govenremtn. Thus, incarceration and arrest is a right retained by the people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Now you're contradicting yourself.
    Keyword: DIRECT DEFENSE

    No contradiction. You seem to be confused over the difference between DIRECT DEFENSE and PREEMPTIVE DEFENSE.

    One is related to an imminent threat, the other is playing a game of craps.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Wrong.


    Then you don;t mean what was quoted because it runs contrary to all rational thought to believe both what you said and in capital punishment carried out by the state.
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    Re: Particulars

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    What am I looking for there?
    A link to a post showing that, in Maryland, it costs $1.9 million more to execute a criminal.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    The gov. has the moral obligation to protect its citizens, and that's the end of it. Close the thread.
    Power is almost always abused, particularly when it is unaccountable and centralised. I'm sceptical of granting gov't anything but the absolute minimum.

    Life imprisonment seems to work the same without granting the state the same fear, awe and power as giving it the right to execute.

    I might be more willing if the gov't you were talking about was only a very local, very democratic and very accountable one perhaps.

    As for deterrence I'm not convinced, one can make a lot of claims about correlations either way, compare Britain with the US for instance. But morally I don't think it is a good argument unless it is extremely effective and also I don't understand why you'd stop at lethal injection. If that deters people surely hang, drawing and quartering or burning at the stake will serve even better?
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Life imprisonment seems to work the same without granting the state the same fear, awe and power as giving it the right to execute.
    my question for you wessexman is this--if you grant the state the power to imprison people for life, how is that any different from granting the state the power to execute people? and I mean this seriously. either way you are giving gov't a ton of power, aren't you?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I don't understand why you'd stop at lethal injection. If that deters people surely hang, drawing and quartering or burning at the stake will serve even better?
    Hell yeah! Pack a picnic lunch and make a day of it! Nothing better than a good ol' fashioned public hanging!

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Invayne View Post
    Hell yeah! Pack a picnic lunch and make a day of it! Nothing better than a good ol' fashioned public hanging!
    an aside, it always really grossed me out how they'd show public hangings in cowboy movies with a crowd of people watching, women sitting on blankets and little kids running around. it's like seriously people, have a church social or something if you're that desperate for a gathering. I can't imagine watching a hanging without puking afterwards. I wonder if that was a big issue back then.

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