View Poll Results: Should Capital Punishment be supported?

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  • It should be supported in both principle and practice.

    43 47.78%
  • Yes in principle, but not in practice due to the ambiguity of social bias.

    14 15.56%
  • It should be opposed both in principle and practice.

    33 36.67%
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Thread: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

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    [QUOTE=Monk-Eye;1057833697]Oh, the leap is rather simple considering the potential for parole advocated by pacifists who feel pity for degenerates, at the neglect of victims, with the delusion that heinous crimes can be repaid in pennance through incarceration and rehabilitation.[./QUOTE]

    Translation: Because the system that is currently in place is flawed we should kill them.

    Don't speak of fixing that which is broken... nay, that would be the intelligent thing to do. Instead, we will do the moronic thing and ignore the real problem and kill, kill, kill.

    That's smart.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    We do not punish criminals based on the few who might actually be innocent. We punish criminals based on the fact that the huge vast majority of them are guilty of the crime they have been convicted of. Besides the anti-death penalty side already stated that it doesn't the government shouldn't be in the business of "revenge", so in that regard if there are actually innocent people who have been executed their deaths do not matter to you either and I am sure the financial cost do not matter to you either.



    Then it needs to be made cheaper. Because I sure the drugs,electricity or whatever else is used to execute someone doesn't cost millions of dollars. It is all the bull **** that happens before the execution that cost millions of dollars. I am sure those things can be cut. Because there is no reason why one trial for murder should cost more than the other, there is no reason why someone who was convicted with very strong evidence should have a **** load of appeals, nor is there any reason why one court appointed attorney should cost more than another court attorney for the accused.
    Since this is your attitude, I can only hope for you that you are eventually accused of a capital crime that you did not commit, and that you are the one who is denied appeals and is executed as swiftly as possible.

    If you truly are so callous against the innocent people who have ended up getting unjustly killed, you deserve no less than what I have described.

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    Re: Particulars

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Prison doesn't deter anyone from committing a crime either, not only those who see others going to prison for their crimes, but even those criminals who have been there themselves and keep committing crimes over and over again.

    Should we stop putting people in prison too?
    Does every criminal released from prison reoffend?

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    Re: Particulars

    Emdash, here is something for you:

    Death Penalty

    This website shows that States that do not have the death penalty have lower murder rates than those States that do, which proves that the death penalty does not act as a deterant.

    During the 1990s, while the US execution rate multiplied, the amount that the murder rates of the US states with the death penalty, were higher than the rates of the US states without the death penalty, grew markedly as well; and, while the murder rates of the death penalty states declined markedly during that period, the murder rates of the abolitionist states declined considerably more -- with no pattern, in the changes in the murder rates, apparent, when the states are listed in the order of the ratios of the numbers of executions they have had, to their populations
    From here

    Also see this site and click on 'Homicide Rates In The United States'. It takes you to a graph and shows which States have the highest murder rates. Louisiana is number one - and I believe this State has the death penalty.

    There are many other sources which all claim the same thing - that States with the death penalty have higher murder rates than those without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Translation: Because the system that is currently in place is flawed we should kill them.
    Don't speak of fixing that which is broken... nay, that would be the intelligent thing to do. Instead, we will do the moronic thing and ignore the real problem and kill, kill, kill.
    That's smart.
    When I was in basic training a drill sergeant picked up a rock and, with his arm raised, turned to face a foraging black bird, which promptly flew away.
    He turned back to the undisciplined troops and said, "See, it understands."

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    Re: Stuck In Idle

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    "Stuck In Idle"
    Well whoopie dooo...
    How is a superficial address (3 times, full citation, unsuccessful challenge) of a digressive term -- libertarian supposed to address the nonsense surrounding the misapplication of that term within modern politics as concerns Infinite Chaos?
    What? I was simply showing your individual application of the term and even the general American one since the 70s is not the only usage.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Since this is your attitude, I can only hope for you that you are eventually accused of a capital crime that you did not commit, and that you are the one who is denied appeals and is executed as swiftly as possible.

    If you truly are so callous against the innocent people who have ended up getting unjustly killed, you deserve no less than what I have described.

    so what you're saying is, anyone who advocates unjust executions deserves an unjust execution.

    uh-oh.

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    Re: Particulars

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristina View Post
    Emdash, here is something for you:

    Death Penalty

    This website shows that States that do not have the death penalty have lower murder rates than those States that do, which proves that the death penalty does not act as a deterant.



    From here

    Also see this site and click on 'Homicide Rates In The United States'. It takes you to a graph and shows which States have the highest murder rates. Louisiana is number one - and I believe this State has the death penalty.

    There are many other sources which all claim the same thing - that States with the death penalty have higher murder rates than those without.
    maybe that's WHY they have the death penalty. because they have higher murder rates.

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    Re: Particulars

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    maybe that's WHY they have the death penalty. because they have higher murder rates.
    Remember you were arguing that the death penalty was a deterant. Haven't I proven that it isn't?

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    Re: Particulars

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristina View Post
    Remember you were arguing that the death penalty was a deterant. Haven't I proven that it isn't?
    I'm looking at the sites still and I appreciate all the research but what if states with the death penalty have it because they have more crime already? any thoughts on that?

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