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Thread: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Who says that they do? The costs reported are averages. Some cases are easier to prove and some are harder.
    Are we really going to chew this one down to the bone?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    This thread has also gotten too long for me. OY!

    The death penalty is a beautiful thing. Leftists always say that it does not deter crime...I beg to differ. Anyone put to death for murder has never murdered again. They like to compare it to abortion...why do righties like the death penalty but not abortion? Simple. A murderer has deprived an innocent person of their life, so they should give their life in return. They are GUILTY of a CRIME. Abortion is taking the life of an INNOCENT child who did nothing wrong. The only thing this innocent child did was take away mama's freedom, and whose fault is that? Certainly not the child's. Big difference here, folks.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Not all cases are that cut and dry. Furthermore, a historical study of the death penalty in America over the past 50 years shows that it is rarely that simple. Not to mention that the numerous releases from death row show that we are in fact convicting innocent (of that crime) people.
    Some cases are that cut and dry.

    And why is this? What didnt we have 50 years ago?
    DNA evidence.
    We live in a different world with the advancements of forensic science.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Some cases are that cut and dry.

    And why is this? What didnt we have 50 years ago?
    DNA evidence.
    We live in a different world with the advancements of forensic science.
    I agree. john Wayne Gacy is a great example of someone who was definitely guilty.

    My thinking is that, "Yes. These peices of **** DESERVE to die". I don't deny that. In fact, I usually agree with that in most cases on an emotional level.

    My argument hinges entirely on the fact that I do not think it is the government's job to exact revenge.

    I most defintely think that the government should NOT have this ability.

    I've never seen any compelling argument for that which did not rely solely on emotionality.

    Emotionality is irrational by nature, so deciding something based on this is irrational.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    But partial compensation can be given for an erroneous jail sentence - most people spend most of their lives working - a monetary award, say double what the person would have earned, goes a long way to at least make up for the economic damage. But with the death penalty NO compensation is possible.
    Why not? You can give money to the surviving family of the executed person, just like you do in wrongful death lawsuits. How is that unjust?
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The problem is, even if we can keep them away from the general population, they still pose a danger to other inmates and guards in the prisons, plus the fact that we have to keep feeding, clothing and apparently, paying for their cable TV for the rest of their lives.

    They're just not worth that.
    I am not sure it is worth the risk to execute someone who may be innocent.

    With the current legal challenges and system, it has actually been shown to cost more to execute someone than it does to keep them incarcerated; is this really a cost benefit argument, or one of moral integrity?

    Much like my argument for the life of an unborn child, I would also argue that society needs to maintain its moral high ground when it comes to executions; maybe it is a barbaric past we need to distance ourselves from.

    I used to always be in favor of executions, as I grow older and I would hope wiser, I have tended to believe that perhaps this is something we need to take a long hard look at.

    Do I really care if these murderers as charged are a potential threat to the other thugs in the prison? Hell no.

    Should they have all the luxuries of home? Hell no.

    I believe the ONLY reason they are permitted exercise rooms and TVs is to control them and make the guards jobs a little safer. Can you imagine if we incarcerate people for life and remove all these things? There would be never ending violence and riots.

    Any way, that is my on this topic.

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Of course. But I believe the point being made was that when it IS that cut and dry why bother giving them the satisfaction of sucking up resources?
    Ummmmm, because we have a Constitution?

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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post

    Should they have all the luxuries of home? Hell no.

    I believe the ONLY reason they are permitted exercise rooms and TVs is to control them and make the guards jobs a little safer. Can you imagine if we incarcerate people for life and remove all these things? There would be never ending violence and riots.

    Any way, that is my on this topic.

    I agree with this particular section of your post, and for that, I am DEEPLY disturbed.

    But yeah, I agree. Give prisoners absolutely nothing to do and they're more likely to get frustrated and attack each other, or their guards. There does need to be a line drawn though. Let them exercise to work off their energy, but for the love of God, don't give violent criminals access to weights that'll allow them to become even stronger and pontentially even more of a threat to society when they're released. Exercise equipment, yeah. Weights that'll give them the strength to overpower other inmates/guards/innocent people - hell no!

    Coincidntally, the prison near me is nicknamed "The ***** Hilton", probably because the inmates started a prison riot when the guards didn't bring them in a wide enough selection of DVD's for them to watch. TV, books, job training, skills training and anger management would be more productive ways for them to spend their time.

    Additionally, life should mean LIFE. Not ten years, not twenty, LIFE.
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why not? You can give money to the surviving family of the executed person, just like you do in wrongful death lawsuits. How is that unjust?
    Maybe because cash doesn't alter the fact that the state has murdered an innocent man?
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    Re: Is Capital Punishment Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Are we really going to chew this one down to the bone?
    If costs are a real concern, we should.
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