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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Or, if you'd like to just be able to shout "YOOS!", come to Glasgow.
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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I'm still not sure why you think that my opinion is what it is because I haven't struggled financially. I assure you, I spent many years struggling financially
    IMO your current opine is based on your success riv in that you can't understand how others cannot surmount and overcome the obstacles you have to reach your level of success and because of that you don't quite understand how others aren't capable of just quiting, moving along and finding a better job or one more to their liking.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Unfortunately not all unions are for the people as they should be. There's a union here in Seattle, SEIU Local 9, that is the shadiest operation I've seen. They adopted Contracted Security into their union (forcefully) and the funny thing is they cannot protect them at all. Security is unable to strike as it is a 24/7 necessity and all contracts state that in the event the guards refuse to work they will contract a temporary security service in place of them untill they find another company. So no striking if you don't like the proposed contract. The union only recognizes the occupied floors of a building as security oriented square footage.... even though the security officers have to patrol not only the occupied areas, but the inactive areas, the parking floors, the roof, the exterior, the storage facility, and the empty building next to ours etc, so they are paid at a lower rate than the contract states they should, based on square feet.

    I feel bad for the contracted physical security here. They know they are being hosed, but even if they choose not to be a part of the union, their dues will still be taken out and given to a charity of the SEIU's choice instead of theirselves.
    They can get a different union you know. They don't have to keep SEIU.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Sure, as long as you're willing to disavow any pay increases or additional holidays or improvements won by the unions, and are satisified that employers know you have less of a professional support network than union-members, and are willing to accept that this'll bar you from certain fields.
    I'm not in a union and I dont any of these problems.
    How did that happen?

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    I like unions. When I get a job, I plan to be in a union, but I will NOT be forced to do it though, or else I will move.
    There are some industries where you have no choice, you either join the union or you don't work, period.
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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There are some industries where you have no choice, you either join the union or you don't work, period.
    Ahhh... the right to choose.

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    idea Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    One does not have join a union. I chose to not join one years ago and I lost chance for a good job. If one does not want join the union that represents and protects workers, one has the choice of looking for a job elsewhere. I chose to look elsewhere. I was told that the company was a union shop, and I looked for a non-union shop. At the end of the year, I figured that I had lost close to 14,000 dollar, that I could have received if I had joined the
    union.

    Now with companies and government backing away from medical and other benefits, joining a union has become a very smart thing to do.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Thew right to choose exists BEFORE someone makes th eCHOICE to enter into the industry that has Union Memebrship as a requirement. I don't get how people think their rights to choose is removed just because they made a choice that has unpleasant consequences.

    If someone CHOOSES to pursue a career in a field where Union Membership is a requirement, they either need to STFU and join the Union. or they neecd to pick a new career. End of story.

    This making poor choices and then bitching about the consequences attitude is irksome to me.

    I say this and I was a non-Union Carpenter for years, even running my own non-Union carpentry company for a while. I've never belonged to a Union.
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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Thew right to choose exists BEFORE someone makes th eCHOICE to enter into the industry that has Union Memebrship as a requirement.
    Correct me if I am wrong, but...
    The right to unionze stems from the right to associate.
    Doesnt the right to associate also, necessarily, include the right to NOT associate?

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but...
    The right to unionze stems from the right to associate.
    Doesnt the right to associate also, necessarily, include the right to NOT associate?
    And anyone has the right not to associate. What they don't have a right to do is work at a specific job. If that specific job has requirements that they do not want to partake in, tough **** for them. They need to look for a different job.
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