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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You're confusing correlation with causation, there's no indication that being in a union makes the country have a high standard of living, only that the two elements exist in the same country.
    Oh did I say that being in a union makes a country have a high standard of living?

    Would you mind posting my exact words in context?

    Also I'm NOT implying that putting words in my mouth makes you a %^&*$.

    That's only a correlation and doesn't prove causation as you know.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Here in SD we're a "right to work" state because we recognize a person's right to earn a living is far greater than the unions right to regulate the work environment.

    Personal freedom FTW
    40th in per capita income...your reward.

    Liberal non "right to work" Minnestoa right next door.... 13th in per capita income.
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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    40th in per capita income...your reward.

    Liberal non "right to work" Minnestoa right next door.... 13th in per capita income.
    And Virginia, a "right to work" state, is like 7th.

    Not that it matters, since once again, you are relating two things that have nothing to do with each other.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You're confusing correlation with causation, there's no indication that being in a union makes the country have a high standard of living, only that the two elements exist in the same country.



    As opposed to the pure left wing B.S. that you're spouting?
    At the very least the fact that high unionization rates exist in countries with the highest living standards does demonstrate that dense unionization rates are not harmful to these countries. Many on the right often argue that unions ruin a country's economy. This is simply not the case. In the current world economy, countries can have high unionization rates where workers enjoy significant protections and bargaining rights, while also having the highest standards of living in the world as measured by the HDI.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    And Virginia, a "right to work" state, is like 7th.

    Not that it matters, since once again, you are relating two things that have nothing to do with each other.
    The five states with the highest per capita income are all non-right to work states. Again this does not show that right to work laws decrease per capita income. However, it does show that the states with the highest per capita income also give unions significant protections.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Unions are the reason for the increased productivity? Am I reading that right?
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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Everyone everywhere has the right not to join a Union. No one anywhere should have a "right" to employment of any kind. People who want to work without joining a Union need to find an employer who will hire them, or need to start their own business. I don't quite see where the issue lies. Is the government seriously going to step in and force a company to hire a non-union member?

    If the company has made a contract with a Union that they will only hire Union members, then you have to join the union to work for that company.

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Sweden in 85% unionized and has one of the highest standards of living in the World...above that of the USA.
    Can you show that the high union participation is the cause of that high standard of living?

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    Re: A right to NOT join a union?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Everyone everywhere has the right not to join a Union. No one anywhere should have a "right" to employment of any kind. People who want to work without joining a Union need to find an employer who will hire them, or need to start their own business. I don't quite see where the issue lies. Is the government seriously going to step in and force a company to hire a non-union member?

    If the company has made a contract with a Union that they will only hire Union members, then you have to join the union to work for that company.
    An American citizen has the same right not to join a union as they do to join a union. What's next? The mark of the beast?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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