View Poll Results: Is Obama going to take our guns?

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  • Yes, it's a fact Obama will take our guns! TO ARMS! TO ARMS!

    8 23.53%
  • No, this is a fear based rhetoric of the right to smear the upcoming Obama administration!

    9 26.47%
  • Any administration has the potential to violate our 2nd Amendment rights!

    10 29.41%
  • I'm not worried but I will be watching.

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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    No, I was paying attention. Sanders made a comment about the right's comical fear of gun banning. That pertains to the topic. You responded by talking about healthcare and abortion, things which have nothing to do with gun control.
    I believe the immediate issue was 'fearmingering', with someone complaining that the pro-gun people were engaging in it. I believe my post pointed out that the anti-people -- predominately liberals -- engage in it as well, so that at best, his comlaint was the pot calling the kettle black.

    Partisan blinders will do that.
    Ironic, that I -just- mentioned the pot and the kettle...

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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I believe the immediate issue was 'fearmingering', with someone complaining that the pro-gun people were engaging in it. I believe my post pointed out that the anti-people -- predominately liberals -- engage in it as well, so that at best, his comlaint was the pot calling the kettle black.
    Fair enough.


    Ironic, that I -just- mentioned the pot and the kettle...
    Are you implying that I have my partisan(read: Libertarian) blinders on?
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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Are you implying that I have my partisan(read: Libertarian) blinders on?
    Only as much as you implied the same about me.

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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So... even though he openly supports such things, he won't sign any gun bans into law?
    Take a look at who I was responding to and what I've posted since. There is a difference between concerns over increased gun control and fearmongering

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I believe the immediate issue was 'fearmingering', with someone complaining that the pro-gun people were engaging in it. I believe my post pointed out that the anti-people -- predominately liberals -- engage in it as well, so that at best, his comlaint was the pot calling the kettle black.


    Ironic, that I -just- mentioned the pot and the kettle...
    Well, TruthDetector, not everybody who disagrees with you is a liberal. I am against increased gun control. I am also opposed to the over the top fear mongering we've seen recently

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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Take a look at who I was responding to and what I've posted since. There is a difference between concerns over increased gun control and fearmongering
    Oh?

    What's exactly the difference, vis-a-vis what I said? You called what I wrote "fearmongering."
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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh?

    What's exactly the difference, vis-a-vis what I said? You called what I wrote "fearmongering."
    He's already given examples of what you wrote that he considers fearmongering.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057813422-post25.html
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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh?

    What's exactly the difference, vis-a-vis what I said? You called what I wrote "fearmongering."
    We've been over this and we disagree. I call your doomsday language fear mongering, you (unsurprisingly) feel it was reasonable. I doubt we will make any progress from rehashing that discussion.

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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Take a look at who I was responding to and what I've posted since. There is a difference between concerns over increased gun control and fearmongering
    Sure there is.

    But, does the concern that Obama will ban guns qualify as fearmongering?

    Thats why I asked you if you thought that, even though he openly supports such things, he won't sign any gun bans into law.

    Do you or do you not think that he will sign gun ban(s) into law?

    If you DO believe that he will, how then does the concern that he will qualify as 'fearmongering'?

    If you do not... we'll, I'd really like to hear your reasoning, especially given that he openly supports them.

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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    We've been over this and we disagree. I call your doomsday language fear mongering, you (unsurprisingly) feel it was reasonable. I doubt we will make any progress from rehashing that discussion.
    What's "doomsday" about what I said? I described accurately what was done before -- and what is attempting to be done now by the same people. If that's "fearmongering," you must live most of your life peering out nervously from under your bed.
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    Re: Obama and gun-ownership...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sure there is.

    But, does the concern that Obama will ban guns qualify as fearmongering?

    Thats why I asked you if you thought that, even though he openly supports such things, he won't sign any gun bans into law.

    Do you or do you not think that he will sign gun ban(s) into law?

    If you DO believe that he will, how then does the concern that he will qualify as 'fearmongering'?

    If you do not... we'll, I'd really like to hear your reasoning, especially given that he openly supports them.
    I think we will probably see legislation regarding the expired assault weapons ban. Outside of that, no, I don't think Obama will sign any gun bans into law

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