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Is Obama due the same treatment as Bush?

Is Obama due the same treatment as Bush?

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Iriemon said:
I know his opinion!
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We know yours on everything touching Bush and the Iraq war. It is really getting more than boring now that the election is over and we lost.

How about some of that CHANGE.

How do you feel about the people owning part of the GM...boat we might be forced to bail?

Have anything to say about socialized Solar Panels, or is it that you and the rest of your Democratic Party are waiting for approved signals from the hive mind?
 
sazerac said:
There's hardly any point debating people who don't accept the truth when it is presented.
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Therefore, by your own logic, you are not worth debating as you have repeatively shown you will not accept the truth even when it comes right out of your own links.
 
DivineComedy said:
We know yours on everything touching Bush and the Iraq war. It is really getting more than boring now that the election is over and we lost.
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Hey, feel free not to read my posts if they bore you.

How about some of that CHANGE.

How do you feel about the people owning part of the GM...boat we might be forced to bail?

Have anything to say about socialized Solar Panels, or is it that you and the rest of your Democratic Party are waiting for approved signals from the hive mind?
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No one is talking about Solar panels or GM bailouts here. Start a new thread if you want to rant about that stuff.
 
Iriemon said:
Start a new thread if you want to rant about that stuff.
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I'm conservative with topics, you start one. It is your CHANGE, not mine.

All I can do here is talk about smirking chimp ethnic cleansers like Obama. And I can point out that refuted Mary Michell, who is well employed in the black community, knows more about Obama being a liar to get elected than anyone.

If you really want to remind me of the Bush is a dictator stuff from before 9/11, and he stole the election, feel free, we know Obama stole the election and lied to the American people to get elected and Mary Michell's job proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
DivineComedy said:
I'm conservative with topics, you start one. It is your CHANGE, not mine.

All I can do here is talk about smirking chimp ethnic cleansers like Obama. And I can point out that refuted Mary Michell, who is well employed in the black community, knows more about Obama being a liar to get elected than anyone.

If you really want to remind me of the Bush is a dictator stuff from before 9/11, and he stole the election, feel free, we know Obama stole the election and lied to the American people to get elected and Mary Michell's job proves it beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I find it Ironic....
Obama truly -is- an African-American, and yet has none of the moral authority claimed by self-styled African Americans.

After all, HE doesnt descend from former American slaves...
 
Goobieman said:
I find it Ironic....
Obama truly -is- an African-American, and yet has none of the moral authority claimed by self-styled African Americans.

After all, HE doesnt descend from former American slaves...
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He is only half black and raised by whites, in white towns, and in white schools

if he is african american I'm Clintons Illegitimate aborted son
 
Yes, Obama is due exactly the same treatment as Bush. If Obama lies us into a war, tells us that fighting terrorism means going shopping, give our wounded troops another Walter Reed Hospital, supports torture, tells us that we should get bin Laden, dead or alive, then later say it doesn't matter, turn the Justice Department into a political arm of his party, call bills that pollute the air "Clear Skies" initiatives, call bills that create stupid children "Leave no child behind", call initiatives for a police state a "Patriot Act", tell other patriotic Americans that they are unpatriotic, and says they are either with us or against us, attempts to use executive orders to redefine Congress' intention in passing bills, uses executive orders to give a big middle finger to the law instead of enforcing it, uses executive orders to state that he is above the law, outs a CIA agent because her husband does not agree with him, uses Federal departments to spread propaganda, pays TV networks to put propaganda on the air that is disguised as news, or any of a kajillion other things that Bush did while in office, then Obama should share the title of worst president in history, right alongside of Bush, he should be treated like the same kind of crap that Bush is being treated as, and he should be impeached, as Bush should have been.
 
You didn't talk like that in Jan 2001.
 
American said:
You didn't talk like that in Jan 2001.
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In January 2001, although my vote was for Pat Buchanan in 2000, I supported Bush strongly, and had no idea that his tenure would be so disastrous. I bolted the GOP in 2003, but am about to come back. The Bushneviks no longer control the party.
 
danarhea said:
attempts to use executive orders to redefine Congress' intention in passing bills, uses executive orders to give a big middle finger to the law instead of enforcing it, uses executive orders to state that he is above the law,
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Evil executive orders. All of them! All of them!

There is one executive order by Bush I would be very interested in seeing if Obama removes.

Executive Order: Protecting the Property Rights of the American People

2006 Executive Orders Disposition Tables

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/11579-social-economic-justice-development-authority.html

The Horror! The Horror!
 
danarhea said:
In January 2001, although my vote was for Pat Buchanan in 2000, I supported Bush strongly, and had no idea that his tenure would be so disastrous. I bolted the GOP in 2003, but am about to come back. The Bushneviks no longer control the party.
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I'm curious to hear who you see leading the party.
 
Bush is the worst president in our history. He is trully probably the only president that dislikes the people of the USA. The damage that he has done may be incalculable.

To treat Obama the same we treat Bush now after all the terrible years we have had with Bush is totally without reason. Obama need some years to work and try to resolve the terrible problems that Bush, Cheney, Rove, Gingritch, etc. have caused The USA.

The Bush anti-American stuff is so imbedded now that it may already spell doom for the United States.

God Bless the United States and Obama.

We all know that Bush is pure evil. It would be a blessing if the lord and master of Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc would take them home to their natural home in HELL
 
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dragonslayer said:
Bush is the worst president in our history. He is trully probably the only president that dislikes the people of the USA. The damage that he has done may be incalculable.

To treat Obama the same we treat Bush now after all the terrible years we have had with Bush is totally without reason. Obama need some years to work and try to resolve the terrible problems that Bush, Cheney, Rove, Gingritch, etc. have caused The USA.

The Bush anti-American stuff is so imbedded now that it may already spell doom for the United States.

God Bless the United States and Obama.

We all know that Bush is pure evil. It would be a blessing if the lord and master of Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc would take them home to their natural home in HELL
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My big fear is that Bush did all this unpopular/irrational/anti-american stuff to ENABLE Obama to take ADVANTAGE of the loss of all civil lberties, and then act as dictator.

I wouldn't even want to give obama his 'honeymoon' in office... let him feel the heat untill he he starts bearing fruit (of course when NOTHING changes, the Obamanoids will say that its BECAUSE of a lack of support, and blame Bush for everything wrong with the economy and why it can't be fixed...)
 
BO will bankrupt the country, which yes it is well on its way towards, so that he can be the first leader of teh one world government and become the dictator of the world

how do you like them apples?
 
ADK_Forever said:
Iriemon, you certainly did OWN him! It was fun to watch!
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You and Iriemon say Bush lied about Iraq but you can't prove it. You shouldn't say stuff on forum you can't prove. And you shouldn't tell lies about the president, especially in a time of war.

I provided a link to quotes from the actual senate report that says he was justified in saying what he said about WMDs based on the information he was given.
 
sazerac said:
You and Iriemon say Bush lied about Iraq but you can't prove it.
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He did lie about the inspectors.

I provided a link to quotes from the actual senate report that says he was justified in saying what he said about WMDs based on the information he was given.
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And your own link states that there were serious, critical, fatal flaws in that intelligence which rendered it effectively useless.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057805786-post113.html

All you are doing is attempting argument via ad naseum. Repeat the same refuted garbage over and over not noticing that your own link refutes your claims and hope no one notices.
 
danarhea said:
For now, it will either be Gingrich or Steele.
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Yeah, I saw what you said in the other thread. I agree about Gingrich's baggage, but he could head the RNC. Steele could to, but I don't see him winning a GOP primary. But I can see them being what you are looking for.
 
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sazerac said:
You and Iriemon say Bush lied about Iraq but you can't prove it. You shouldn't say stuff on forum you can't prove. And you shouldn't tell lies about the president, especially in a time of war.

I provided a link to quotes from the actual senate report that says he was justified in saying what he said about WMDs based on the information he was given.
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You are like those little annoying dogs that hump your leg yapping all the time and just won't go away. :roll: You have been proved wrong numerous times in this forum.

Accept it... you... are... wrong!
 
jamesrage said:
I think it would be fair if instead of switching thier roles, they should keep them. In other words the same insane liberal whackjobs who made up all kinds of bull**** like Bush lied(even though everyone and their damn mom claimed Saddam had WMDs,Saddam violated several UN accords, Saddam led everyone to believe he had WMDs and Oh the fact that Saddam has a history of using WMDs)and those who lied and said this war was for oil, Cheny's buddies in Haliburton, some Zionist conspiracy to take over of the middle east or some other crock of **** reason would do the same thing to Obama. And those on the right that defended Bush for "indefensible" actions taken by the administration would do the same to Obama.


But I know that will never happen.So I will be satisfied with the roles switching.
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Bush deserves all the critism he got, and I bet you a soft drink that GW is willing to take the licks he deserves because of his decisions. All old news, and this country needs to move forward or do something about it.

In a democracy, it is the people and press that must hold its leaders accountable. If Obama screws up like the two previous presidents, then he needs to be held accountable.
 
sazerac said:
You and Iriemon say Bush lied about Iraq but you can't prove it. You shouldn't say stuff on forum you can't prove.
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Sure I did.

And you shouldn't tell lies about the president, especially in a time of war.
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The president shouldn't tell lies, especially about a war.

I provided a link to quotes from the actual senate report that says he was justified in saying what he said about WMDs based on the information he was given.
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And I provided a link to the actual report that says he said things about Iraq for which there was not justification for what he said.
 
Originally Posted by jamesrage
I think it would be fair if instead of switching thier roles, they should keep them. In other words the same insane liberal whackjobs who made up all kinds of bull**** like Bush lied( even though everyone and their damn mom claimed Saddam had WMDs,Saddam violated several UN accords, Saddam led everyone to believe he had WMDs and Oh the fact that Saddam has a history of using WMDs)and those who lied and said this war was for oil, Cheny's buddies in Haliburton, some Zionist conspiracy to take over of the middle east or some other crock of **** reason would do the same thing to Obama. And those on the right that defended Bush for "indefensible" actions taken by the administration would do the same to Obama.


But I know that will never happen.So I will be satisfied with the roles switching.
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Bush did lie and I proved it starting with Post #62 of this thread. Just because you can't handle the truth is no reason to blame others.
 
Originally Posted by sazerac
There's hardly any point debating people who don't accept the truth when it is presented.
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That door swings both ways, buddy boy!
 
ADK_Forever said:
You are like those little annoying dogs that hump your leg yapping all the time and just won't go away. :roll: You have been proved wrong numerous times in this forum.

Accept it... you... are... wrong!
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No I haven't been proven wrong. I've proven you wrong but you're too immature to just admit you can't prove he lied and shut up about it.
 
Billo_Really said:
That door swings both ways, buddy boy!
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You want me to accept your pathetic radical Mother Goose article?

If that's your proof that Bush lied then you just continue to be a liar and a traitor.
 
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