sazerac

Yes, it proves that Bush did not lie.

Fred Hiatt - 'Bush Lied'? If Only It Were That Simple. - washingtonpost.com

Here is an article about the investigation from Washington Post with quotes from the report. There is also criticism of Senator Rockefeller and others who wrote the report.

The big lie is "Bush lied."

Game over.

obvious Child

The millions of Muslims in the US and Canada.

Whoa there. You seem to be failing to understand the difference between disagree and interpretation. Just because they don't interpret the Koran the same way as you do doesn't make them no longer Muslims, unless you want to apply that logic to all religions, in which I'd have to call you crazy.

So you truly believe that they are all going to work in unison towards a final goal?

Again, Cold War Mentality.

Only because you don't want it to. The fact of the matter is that Muslims are hardly a monolith, with each sect and groups within those sects having their own agendas, own interpretations and own views. Your argument effectively states that Liberal Canadian Muslims who have denounced terrorism are the same as Bin Laden. That's crazy talk. It's like saying super liberal pro-gay protestants are the same as ultra orthodox anti-gay, anti-abortion Catholics.

This really belongs in the Conspiracy subforum.

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obvious Child

Your "refutations" of Bush lied posts should be considered spam.

Not Only Did Bush Lie, But Fred Hiatt Lied, Too | Comments from Left Field

Making Light: Bush Lied, and Fred Hiatt Lied Too

The Rockfeller Report which you falsely claim to prove Bush right states this:

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Iriemon

That is only half the jackpot. Lots of nations have WMDs, England France Isreal etc. and its no big deal.

The other part to make Iraq the "urgent threat" to our nation justifying invasion and occupation was that Hussein was likely to use the WMDs against us or by supplying them to terrorists (even though if Hussein had WMDs he'd had them for 20 years and there was no evidence he'd ever given them to terrorists or used them in a terrorist attack against us).

So that was the second part that needed a lie: Iraq was an "ally" of Al Queda Bush told us, and he and his administration again and again linked Hussein with AQ.

Thus you had the two components of the urgent threat: The alliance with the terrorist who attacked us and the WMDs to carry it out.

It was all untrue, as report after report has born out.

Iriemon

Bush: "The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We've removed an ally of al Qaeda ..."

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057798177-post154.html

Game over.

How many times are you going to play and lose this game?

DivineComedy

No lie there, only traitors who give aid and comfort to the enemy say otherwise:

“On the basis of what we said about Iraq while confronting aggressions, the world now needs to abort the US aggressive schemes, including its aggression on the Afghan people, which must stop.

Again we say that when someone feels that he is unjustly treated, and no one is repulsing or stopping the injustice inflicted on him, he personally seeks ways and means for lifting that justice. Of course, not everyone is capable of finding the best way for lifting the injustice inflicted on him. People resort to what they think is the best way according to their own ideas, and they are not all capable of reaching out for what is beyond what is available to arrive to the best idea or means.

To find the best way, after having found their way to God and His rights, those who are inflicted by injustice need not to be isolated from their natural milieu, or be ignored deliberately, or as a result of mis-appreciation, by the officials in this milieu. They should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings. It is only normal to say that punishment is a necessity in our world, because what is a necessity in the other world must also be necessary in our world on Earth. But, the punishment in the other world is faire and just, and the prophets and messengers of God (peace be upon them all) conducted punishment and called for it in justice, and not on the basis of suspicions and whims.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001""

“Once again, we say that, injustice and the pressure that results from it on people lead to explosions. As explosions are not always organized, it is to be expected that they may harm those who make them and others. The events of September 11, should be seen on this basis, and on the basis of imbalanced reactions, on the part of governments accused of being democratic, if the Americans are sure that these were carried out by people from abroad.

To concentrate not on what is important, but rather on what is the most important, we say again that after having seen that the flames of any fire can expand to cover all the world, it first and foremost, needs justice based on fairness. The best and most sublime expression of this is in what we have learned from what God the Al Mighty ordered to be, or not to be.” (Saddam Hussein Shabban 13, 1422 H. October 29, 2001.)

Tell me, who are the magical “they” that Saddam said “should, rather, be reassured and helped to save themselves, and their surroundings?”

{feel free to link to your answer}

sazerac

There's hardly any point debating people who don't accept the truth when it is presented.

Voidwar

I say they do want Sharia on the planet, they are just too busy enjoying the fruits of the first world while acting as sleeper cells.

ADK_Forever

Man, that must drive you crazy.

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sazerac

It does.

But there are plenty of people I really like here.