No it isn't. Sure, there are a few atheists that have problems with Christians but the majority do not. This phenomenon of Christian victimhood is largely an invention of the religious right. The 80% of Americans that are Christians are hardly being oppressed by the 20% that aren't, just because we don't want government taking sides on religious matters.Originally Posted by talloulou
Some of them are, others (like the Pledge or currency) are not. If a town wants to have a nativity scene, I don't care. It's mainly just a decoration. When the government officially declares that we're one nation under God, or that in God we trust, there is no explanation for this other than the government has taken sides on religion.Originally Posted by talloulou
Then what would be the tragedy in taking "Under God" out of the Pledge or "In God We Trust" off the money? That's just being neutral, it's not saying that we are NOT a nation under God or that we DON'T trust in God.Originally Posted by talloulou
It's still supporting the religion of theism.Originally Posted by talloulou
The government-run monopoly of education that squelches innovation and competition is a separate matter, and has nothing to do with the Pledge of Allegiance. Furthermore, you already know this fully well and are just using this as a strawman.And basically my biggest problem with liberals trying to change anything in the schools comes from the knowledge that liberals have already severely damaged our public school system. So yeah I'd like to see them try to change something else....you know like the money....and leave the kids in school alone for a bit so they can actually learn something. If they are really worried about kids why don't they try to change the fact that sooooo many kids can't pass a WASL exam in 11th grade when the test is written at an 8th grade level? See I worry about crap like that vs the undefined vague phrase "under God" in the pledge. But then again I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't mind my child hearing the phrase God or accidently picking up some patriotism for their counrty!