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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    Yes, and it was as foolish a point in referring to the anthem as it was in referring to the pledge. Do you really believe that the purpose that the Anthem serves is to practice memory skills? If not, then that is not valid support for it being "useful," and there is nothing left to distinguish the pledge from the anthem (aside from "testing vocal range" which I'm assuming was a joke). So, now that that's set aside, what makes the anthem "useful" but the pledge not?
    I already stated the memory difference. Regardless, ask any musician and they will tell you that the anthem is one of the more difficult songs to sing correctly in the right pitch.

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    Ah, yes, how could I be so stupid. The "I'm smarter than everyone else so I should have the right to tell them what they are permitted to do" argument. I forget that you had that power, forgive me.
    If you read the sentence after the part you bolded you haven't told me how it is useful. I don't see any usefullness and have stated my case. You have failed to show how it is useful. I never said that they shouldn't be permitted to recite it. I just said that it is useless. Prove that I am wrong and show how it is useful. Don't attack me. Step up, sober up, or give up. BTW, critical thinking skills are not the same as intelligence. Many intelligent people have poor critical thinking skills.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002
    I already stated the memory difference. Regardless, ask any musician and they will tell you that the anthem is one of the more difficult songs to sing correctly in the right pitch.
    So that's your final answer. The anthem is useful because it has a challenging vocal range, while the pledge is not because it is not sung.


    If you read the sentence after the part you bolded you haven't told me how it is useful. I don't see any usefullness and have stated my case. You have failed to show how it is useful. I never said that they shouldn't be permitted to recite it. I just said that it is useless. Prove that I am wrong and show how it is useful.
    I don't speak for every school board across the country, and I doubt any of them feel the need to answer to you. As for me personally, I think that reciting the pledge every morning is useful for several reasons. It reminds us that we are not just a group of people, but rather a nation. It pays homage to those who have died for the flag. It is a tradition that many find worth maintaining.

    Don't attack me. Step up, sober up, or give up.
    Do you see the hypocracy in this statement?

    BTW, critical thinking skills are not the same as intelligence. Many intelligent people have poor critical thinking skills.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    So that's your final answer. The anthem is useful because it has a challenging vocal range, while the pledge is not because it is not sung.
    And memorization. If they used reciting the national anthem for roadside sobriety checks, over half of the drivers would be taking a breathalyzer. Lawyers would get the reciting thrown out as it is unreasonable to expect everyone to know all the words. Perhaps they should know, but they don't. That is why it is unreasonable, it isn't common knowledge like the alphabet.



    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    I don't speak for every school board across the country, and I doubt any of them feel the need to answer to you. As for me personally, I think that reciting the pledge every morning is useful for several reasons. It reminds us that we are not just a group of people, but rather a nation. It pays homage to those who have died for the flag. It is a tradition that many find worth maintaining.
    You are right, I forgot we are a nation since I haven't recited it since 5th grade. People died for the flag, which you stated earlier didn't do anything. Now you want to pay homage to people who died for nothing? (I know, they died for freedom and liberty, not an inanimate object) Tell me, why do we have Veteran's Day and Memorial Day?

    I understand that many find it worth maintaining. I just don't see what practical purpose it really serves.

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    Do you see the hypocracy in this statement?
    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002
    And memorization. If they used reciting the national anthem for roadside sobriety checks, over half of the drivers would be taking a breathalyzer. Lawyers would get the reciting thrown out as it is unreasonable to expect everyone to know all the words. Perhaps they should know, but they don't. That is why it is unreasonable, it isn't common knowledge like the alphabet.
    .......... ......

    You are right, I forgot we are a nation since I haven't recited it since 5th grade. People died for the flag, which you stated earlier didn't do anything. Now you want to pay homage to people who died for nothing? (I know, they died for freedom and liberty, not an inanimate object) Tell me, why do we have Veteran's Day and Memorial Day?

    I understand that many find it worth maintaining. I just don't see what practical purpose it really serves.
    You may not have considered this, but there is the possibility that someone, somewhere, might disagree with you. And if they do, and they feel that their school district should recite the pledge, and their school district decides to, then more power to them.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    .......... ......

    You may not have considered this, but there is the possibility that someone, somewhere, might disagree with you. And if they do, and they feel that their school district should recite the pledge, and their school district decides to, then more power to them.
    I disagree with people and I have considered it. Fine, they can decide to do that. They could decide to declare the sky blue and water to be wet every day if they so choose. It doesn't mean that there is any real practical purpose or benefit from it. I am not trying to take that decision away from them. I am just pointing out that it is a useless exercise. All of your hyperbole has yet to show a benefit from reciting the pledge. Thanks for playing, you won't be going away empty handed. You win a home version of the game, Debate Politics, and a year's supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco treat.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002
    I disagree with people and I have considered it. Fine, they can decide to do that. They could decide to declare the sky blue and water to be wet every day if they so choose. It doesn't mean that there is any real practical purpose or benefit from it. I am not trying to take that decision away from them. I am just pointing out that it is a useless exercise. All of your hyperbole has yet to show a benefit from reciting the pledge. Thanks for playing, you won't be going away empty handed. You win a home version of the game, Debate Politics, and a year's supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco treat.
    Right, how silly of me, your opinion is all that matters, and all claims to the contrary will be ignored. This is pointless, it's like arguing with a brick wall. Best of luck to you, have a good night, and perhaps I'll see you somewhere else on here.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightatNYU
    Right, how silly of me, your opinion is all that matters, and all claims to the contrary will be ignored. This is pointless, it's like arguing with a brick wall. Best of luck to you, have a good night, and perhaps I'll see you somewhere else on here.
    Then burden was on you to prove it useful. You failed to do so. Best of luck to you as well, have a good nite, and I am sure you will see me again.
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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002
    Then burden was on you to prove it useful. You failed to do so. Best of luck to you as well, have a good nite, and I am sure you will see me again.
    Meh the sheer promotion of unity within both the anthem and the pledge are a basic benefit inherent to them both.

    You can cultlike chant anything you like with a thousand people but I will never forget or that wonderful tingly feeling of unity when the flag raises and you finish the anthem knowing people gave their lives for the opportunities presented to you and you know you are about to hit someone as hard as you possible can at the beginning of a football game. Its like a good feeling spell that uplifts your spirits and makes you stronger realizing others are backing you up.

    If you dont know what that feeling is I cannot explain it to you.
    You will not ever "get it".

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    Well and activist liberal judge from the 9th circuit court in San Francisco has struck again today striking the word "Under God" from the Pledge of Alegiance....It will go to the SCOTUS and be struck down but what are your thoughts?
    If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson wanted "under God" in the Pledge, they would have included those words when they wrote the Pledge back in 1492.

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    Yes. It should be in there twice actually. To say the majority of founding fathers and the majority of first settlers had no incling to religion is the biggest lie anyone has ever told. That is a fact.
    We have a Separation of Church and State because the founders were Christians. It came from the Bible don't you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by alex
    Of course they had an inkling. It was that inkling that made them decide to remove religion from government.
    That all depends on how you define the word "religion." How do you define it for First Amendment purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
    Separation from chruch and state never occured. That is a fact.
    Why don't you post some information on some examples of a Union of Church and State at the Federal level during the first 25 to 50 years of our grand and glorious republic?

    Here are some examples of the separation of church and state at the Federal level during the first 50 years of the republic.

    • No prayers during the daily legislative sessions of the House or the Senate. The practice of prayers during the daily legislative sessions was not started until the 1850's.
    • No Congressional joint resolutions asking the Chief Magistrate to issue religious recommendations to the people. During the first 50 years Congress only asked for an executive religious recommendation only 5 times.
    • No displays of the Ten Commandments in courts, schools, or anywhere else.
    • The 1810 Post Office law that required the violation of one of the Ten Commandments.
    • The refusal of Congress to pass bills to encourage or support Christianity in the Northwestern Territory.

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    Re: Do you believe that the phrase "Under God" should be in the Pledge of Allegiance?

    Quote Originally Posted by FredFlash
    If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson wanted "under God" in the Pledge, they would have included those words when they wrote the Pledge back in 1492.[/LIST]
    Yeah, and of course Columbus, on the way over here, was required by a directive from the Queen to have the 'under God' (debajo de dios) version recited by the sailors on the three ships.

    But if you read your history, you will find that Columbus objected to the religious version, and often wondered why the Queen would want her subjects to acknowledge her belief in a God. He believed that the conscience of the individual should dictate one's choice of religion, or the rejection of it alltogether.
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